Indesign - layout
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- Bullitt
I gotta put together a brochure here, designed all the pages, but now have to put them into an order which will work for when the brochure is put together after print ( theres a name for this, cant remember what, but its when you have, eg: page 10 and 15 as a double page spread so that the facing pages when folding will be 10-11... anyone know if indesign has a way of working this page order out for you?
Also I noticed the first page of the layout in Indesign, can not be made into a double page spread? anyone know why? Is this because the first and last page of the document make up the cover?
Help be appreciated, cheers.
- pyeaton0
Bullitt:
First, you need to make sure that the page count is divisible by 4. Such as a 24 page brochure would end up using 6 sheets. If it isn't, you will need to add some blank pages.
You are right with the first and last pages of your spread only being able to stand alone. They are considered the cover.
Not sure how you designed it, but, there is a geature in InDesign called InBooklet SE. Its under the file menu at the bottom. This should correctly paginate the file for printwer spreads. This is pretty confusing sometimes. I am terrible at math.
Really, the key to making this work, is to design it with a page count in mind. You may need to drop in blank pages to get the vount right, which of course will redetermine the design of the brochure.
Hope this helps.
- Bullitt0
yes, Ive figured out you need even numbers for a brochure, had 11 originally, then found out after making a mock up that a got a whole blank page. So now I need another spread of content to add on.
- MrT0
Hi Bullitt;
First off, pyeaton's advice about the number of pages/4 is gospel.
Second, I wouldn't worry about the planning up. I've designed for print for over ... well, years, and have *never* done what you're trying to do. I've always given the artwork as spreads, as I want it to look.
This is part of the printers' side of things, like trapping, screen angles etc etc. You'll run into issues with images bleeding across spreads, it's just a nightmare.
I guess my answer is don't do it! It's not really your responsibility. If your printer is saying otherwise they're being out of order.
Unless of course you're working at a printers, then I'll shut up.
Good luck.
- Bullitt0
Yo MrT,
I'l take that advice, as long as your sure they will arrange the pages at the printers. So I should just layout the brochure as it would look when browseing through the final print?
Cheers bud
- stem0
STOP, STOP, STOP - let your printer worry about 'impositions' (that's the word you are looking for)
If it is a 48 page A4 do it simply as 48 facing pages, export as press pdf with bleed and no crops. Works for me!
- pyeaton0
Also, if you are sending it like as a pdf, you must consider your links. If you have tifs with clipping paths on them, reopen them, and save them as eps and update them. Tifs with a path around them will not print correctly. They will not "knock out" the background during sep print. I got burned on that too. I rebuilt the file. Did not want to make enemies at a print house.
- MrT0
Cool. Impositions. You learn something new about something you never have to do, every day :-)
Bullitt: I guess everyone's agreeing here pretty much but I'd still check with the printer if they are OK with PDFs, and InDesign. Neither are industry standard yet in my experience and MHO.
- stem0
Bullitt: I guess everyone's agreeing here pretty much but I'd still check with the printer if they are OK with PDFs, and InDesign. Neither are industry standard yet in my experience and MHO.
MrT
(Jul 13 05, 05:57)Tell your printer to invest in an Heidelberg Topsetter with Signastation.
PDF > Impose > Output direct to plate.
- Blofeldt0
The other option is to export the whole doc as individual pages rather than spreads. Theres a check box either in the export box or somewhere else for this.
It'd be better if you could supply the printer with thhe InDesign files and images on a CD along with a full set of colour runouts so they know what it's supposed to look like.
Some printers rip the PDF and stick it into Quark, and then funny things happen
- stem0
Some printers rip the PDF and stick it into Quark, and then funny things happen
Blofeldt
(Jul 13 05, 06:24)Amateurs!
- pyeaton0
Agreed. Supply the printer with both. PDF, and Indd. Printers, especially when they are working on PDF's can really mess things up.
- Bullitt0
alright, niceone :)