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- fusionpixel
Validating...
So the purpose of validating is so it is accessible to "everyone" and impared people can access it too.So I go validate Google.com and it comes out with 39 errors.
Excuse me if I am wrong but if Google wont worry about making sites that validate, I guess everyone else is pretty much free not to worry.
thoughts?
fusionpixel
(May 05 05 @ 03:33 pm)
- jarredbishop0
i think google should validate but i dont worry too much about it..
i would only really worry about it if i were doing a government site or a site targeted at people with older slower computers etc....
- fusionpixel0
so all this tableless CSS heat should not be taken too seriously?
I have finally my site that took me 2 days to create which actually should take me 4 hours to do if I did it with tables and not worrying about validating.
- silentseven0
I cut up a site and coded it using div tags in 2 days and it worked on Safari Firefox, Opera then went to the f-ing pc and opened up IE and it was all over the place. I spent 5 more days just fixing and hacking for IE then said screw it and used tables
I hate IE
Moral : Just validate it transitional and your css and you should b good to go. You dont have to its just good practice. After 1 or 2 sites you can pretty much code the html & css valid with no problems.
- jevad0
your site can be accessible AND not validate - the two are not mutually exclusive
- kodap0
there should be some software to automatically replace all the garbage in the html pages yet validating it... no one thought about it yet? when I validate my pages I'm too lazy to follow the error logs..
- spiralstarez0
I think too much is made about validation, but this is not for me the major benefit of CSS.
I don't use tables anymore, and I wouldn't go back.
Takes longer to develop the first time, but if you ever do two similar sites you can pretty much throw a new stylesheet at it and get two different sites.
Also, once you learn what works and doesn't in the different browsers you can avoid the problems that arise.
check out: http://www.csszengarden.com
for a good example
- myobie0
i guess validation tells u if you used the language correctly...
so if that is your aim, then go for it...
i like to validate, i advise you validate, but i will not die without it...
- spiralstarez0
I validate for things that make sense.
Some things don't.
Like Flash - how do you validate that?
Aside from A List Apart's Satay method - by the time you get all that done you might as well call it what it is - a hack.
- foreign0
what did you validate?
the xhtml/css?that's going to validate if you used the correct code ie. standards, based on the doctype you specified
it has nothing to do with accessability. accessability is covered in the section 508 legislation.
workng with standards makes your site more accesable, but there's a few more things to do to conform with the 508.
- liquid0
this is more bs ........ its called..... I am designing a site that does custom graphics for motorcycles.....
I am sorry but not to be cruel....but what does accessibility have to do with that...and also doing a regular table layout is perfectly fine..... I think people that complain about people that don't do it are idiots....
I don't need to make my portfolio validate and I dont need to make my layout using CSS....I do it quick and dirty with html/css.... I dont really care if it validates.....I check the 5 different netscape browsers on my computer, opera, mozilla, firefox..... and thats it......if it breaks apart in safari.....I dont care..... cause the people I am selling to most likely DO NOT have Macs...
nuff said..... following the rules for alt tags etc..... so that alternate browsers can read for a blind user.... other then that...... this validation thing is BS in terms of business practicality...
- jpea0
i don't think that making flash validate is all that wonky. i just launched a site built entirely in flash and it validated just fine. i just used a container swf and passed it a variable to load in the html file. a TON less code than DW generates to embed the swf.
- fusionpixel0
well, for my first site to be pure CSS/HTML 4.01 i didnt have to use any hacks or saw any problems with the box model. the site draws fine in IE6 and FF 1 in PC, i havent checked it yet in MAC or in IE 5.5 or Netscape, but I had to hand code it because DW doesnt render the CSS well.
So anyways, I liked doing it this way and I felt like I acomplished more since I had to hand code in TopStyle it rather than having DW do everything for me. but other than that the process was slower than usual. 2 days compared to 4 hours.
We will see with the next project.