Stealing Money
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- ingolfr
i (like a cobbler) let the client decide what to pay me after i give them the final product. which is stupid i know, but im too afraid to ask for too much and dont want to get pwned for asking too little. but since im getting more work from people other then family/friends i want to act more "professional".
so i ask you whats your process of stealing your clients money?
- usrper0
start with 7000/hr and bargain from there.
- Visia0
I usually hold them upside down by the ankles and shake them. Then I see what falls out.
Got a nice comb for my last project. :)
- ingolfr0
hha
- ********0
why are you up so early btw?
- ingolfr0
me? i havent slept yet.
- usrper0
*an icelandic moment
brought to you by usrper
- usrper0
wtf was that
- ingolfr0
:)
- ********0
hmm, me neither, and the fact it's almost light outsidee already doesn't make it easier
- ********0
project description (client)
project proposal (designer)
contact for project (client signs)
1/3 up front (to designer)
1/3 half way (to designer)
final project (client)
final 1/3 (to designer)
no final 1/3 (client)
court date (client and designer)
brick through window (to client from designer)
- ********0
hahaha
- scarabin0
i hte sending someone a quote and then waiting for their reply.
did i quote too high and scare them off?? should i have quoted more???
- ********0
quote what you think is fair- if they think it's too high then let it pass... lowing your price comes off non professional- stick to your guns.
- imakedesign0
argree sign off dates/payments.
- blaw0
good summary, puter.
- rabattski0
there's also a side effect of pricing which is hardly covered here. now this may sound weird but it's really true. often if you charge too low, are too cheap clients can think you're not good, that you're inferiour. and often it happens that if you charge too high (in your opinion) they see that as the price you have to pay for quality. so turning down jobs because the money ain't right can work out positively.
- kerus0
grow a set and start asking for an hourly rate
- plashal0
some us do this full time and don't have the option of dropping rates. .. so i suggest you start working by the hour.. like lawyers .. but not "as" scummy... remember to invoice (itemize) everything and keep a hourly work log.. make sure to agree to work so many hours and have some kind of lootercress cap on how many hours you will work.. (ex. 40h @ $50/h for design. $35h for project management and 40h for programming.. etc etc.. ) good luck and welcome to the rat race..
- ornj0
I work by the hour too, it's pretty simple to come up with a cost per hour and then sit down and plan the project. Decide how long it will take you to do it and give all that information to the client. If you explain why the client needs to pay you $XXX dollars then they are more likely to do it. I always ask for a percentage up front or at a crit. That way the client will probably not disappear. I've had one that did though but their check cleared so they can come back whenever they wish.