CSS and DW preview advice
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- xau0
True that Blofeldt. You have to be firm with them. It's a collaboration, and not speaking with the *other* designer/developer is out of the question.
Sorry I've been so rigid about this issue.
I know whatever you decision you make to handle this will benefit everyone involved.
- vaporstouch0
wow xau, youve got a real ax to grind huh? i asked a fucking question and i get accused of trying to showboat my CSS skills.
the CSS has made the site more accessible via the search engines, can be read easily using a cell or pda, and faster loading.
i made the site compatible across browsers, used inclulde files, so the 'web designer' only had to put body copy in P and H2 tags. i obviously was too presumptuous to think a 'web designer' could do that in code view....my bad.
- mg330
Use FrontPage 2003, not DW.
I use FP at work, and of the tutorials I've been reading to learn more advanced non-tables CSS, all shows up fine in FP.
Great topic, though. Been some good ones lately.
- mg330
"actually already i wrote that telling the client their web designer sucks is not an option, thanks"
LMAO!
- codogg0
Were you contracted to design a site that "previews" correctly in DW? - I doubt it!
Explain to your client that the sit ein fact does work flawlessly on several browsers on several computing platforms. Simply because their web designer cannot sort through some basic CSS and HTML code to add images speaks volumes of their in-house staff.
Or, you could offer to recode the HTML with a goal of having it preview correctly in DW - for extra charges.
- megatron51500
We had a similar problem with a recent project, I had designed their homepage and one subpage with a CSS layout. Well another developer here had to get them the code quick, you gotta love last minute stuff, so it was redesigned with tables. Long story short, they were better off with the code my friend got to them because they were going to work in house on this stuff, there "developers" judged everything on DW Design View.
- ********0
Well I had look at the page in MX and in MX04.
There's nothing wrong with your code. MX simply has bad CSS support. MX04 seems to render it ok:
I tried various methods of linking the style sheet with no success in MX.
As the others have said - I'd tell the client they can have it their way but you should defo charge for it. Looking at what you've got, converting that all to a table-based design is a serious amount of work. I would guess it's cheapr for them to upgrade to MX04.
- ********0
MX04 is cool as fuck fer CSS
also get firefox do a quick wee preview in browser an' then just save in DW an' hit F5 in Firefox...
wurks a fucken treat.
- Mick0
It's 2005 - time to upgrade to mx2004 ;)
I find generally mx2004 is a decent improvement - especially if you're doing lots of CSS work.
- instantok0
mx 2004 runs soooo slow on my machine...it made me switch to bbedit which is so worth it just for the file drawer
- grafholic0
MX04 is cool as fuck fer CSS
also get firefox do a quick wee preview in browser an' then just save in DW an' hit F5 in Firefox...
wurks a fucken treat.
MX_OnD
(Feb 1 05, 15:26)-----
i noticed that FF doesn't update the version of file within iframe with F5.
for instance if i have index.html with iframe, hitting F5 only refreshes and grabs new version of index.html, not index.html and what's within the iframe. the same with reload button.
then i right-click within iframe and select "reload" (or press contrl, click and "reload" in mac), then it grabs the new version.so weird.
- vaporstouch0
thanks for looking at it moth, I appreciate it! My boss stands behind me and said i did what i should, so we will just work it out with our client. It turns out the 'web designer' i spoke to isnt a web designer at all, just a dude who works there and got this thrown on him cuz the web designer quit! Go figure!
- ********0
i noticed that FF doesn't update the version of file within iframe with F5.
for instance if i have index.html with iframe, hitting F5 only refreshes and grabs new version of index.html, not index.html and what's within the iframe. the same with reload button.
then i right-click within iframe and select "reload" (or press contrl, click and "reload" in mac), then it grabs the new version.so weird.
grafholic
(Feb 1 05, 17:31)Naturally.... the cuntent o' they iframe is linked, ken?
Need tae preview it by itsel' before ye preview the iframe.....
- shaft0
Limited cache control is the FF's biggest flaw I found, unless there is a new extension I don't know.
I had my FF not refresh swf files when previewed on a local Apache. My solution was to make Apache add a no-cache header directive to every file it served.
- ********0
Why use a save + F5? Just F12 any changes from DW...