HELP PLEASE!!
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- opiate
check this...
My old employer is asking me (this is the 2nd time, the first time they FIRED ME!) to pull my portfolio site because some of the work was completed there. I put disclaimers that it was in fact completed there. This agency is wacked. Isn't this practiced every day by Designers showing their work completed at agncies? Not to mention pretty much 95% of their agencies portfolio was completed by myself and one other close freind. And we are not there anymore. You want to know why. Because that agency is WACKED!!!! I'am about to do something very evil. here's the email i received today_
Justin –
A client contacted me about your site and the Ant Farm Interactive and Ant Farm Interactive client creative you have posted on the site. As we explained last year, this is a serious issue whether you work for AFI or not. It violates your contract with us. Please remove all AFI and AFI client work as soon as possible. I would prefer to take care of this without our lawyer. Let me know if you have a problem with this. I appreciate you taking this as seriously as I do.
- k0na_an0k0
change some minor things with the work. like the logo or the name on each piece. maybe a color or something.
or tell them to fuck off. by nature it is imparitable that a designer be able to show their work. i haven't ever had this problem as i have stated on my portfolio where needed if i had created a piece while working for a client. most of the contracts you sign(ed) anyways are only good for one year.
good luck.
- canuck0
hmm that sucks man. What are peoples rights in this regard?
If you created the work, and credit the company you produced it at should you not be allowed to link to it?
- opiate0
seriously, I don't get it. There are 2 other designers with sites that have work on it while being there. I think they just are trying to screw me.. Time to get a lawyer.
- tim5250
ask arnuad from www.elixirstudio.com
i know he took down the 'nike' work he did.
- Point50
You're f*cked if you signed a contract saying that you could not use pieces from your job in your portfolio. My old job (5 years ago) said that I had to obtain special permission to have agency work in my personal portfolio.
My opinion, tell your job to choke on some Rocky Mountain Oysters and move on. Be cautious about it and make a plan first if you have to, but get out of there. They do not care for your growth nor do they respect you work.
F'n Leeches!
- Point50
do I sound bitter?
- warheros0
just went over this topic last week in class.
you CANNOT show work made with a company if you made it for them. it is owned BY THEM. you must get PERMISSION. usually they give the okay though. you will be infringing on copyright laws if you continue to show the work you completed while employed there for them.
- zombiewoof0
Move yer "full" portfolio to a new directory and don't give out the address to anyone but prospective clients or employers.
Keep your "neutered" one live to show the pricks you complied with their request.
- opiate0
now the ceo is saying another guys site is "ok" cause the credits are on the home page, where as mine are on the pop ups. something is weird. I know I have to pull some stuff , but the other shit is staying.
- k0na_an0k0
zombiewoof
(Nov 30 04, 11:01)
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last post: brilliant
- opiate0
zombie...... I owe you a drink. That is exactly what I'am going to do.
- ganon0
i created a subdomain for my folio, to avoid this whole thing...only give it to prospective employers...or just get a new url....
- shellie0
its true it does violate most people's contracts.
easily fixed tho... have a password protected area of your site and an email form for people to recieve the password. the only people who would do that are people genuinely interested in looking at your stuff to hire you.
it still violates your contract but your old employer wont go through the trouble of asking for the password and it wont be posted publically for their clients to see.
but dont go and do somethign stupid and get yourself sued.
- zombiewoof0
Glad to be of help. I'm sick of the agencies trying to keep up the facade of the magical design "experience". F- them. It is PEOPLE creating this stuff...real folks...bustin' ass to make rent.
Hope it all works out.
- MLPROJECT0
yeah, i thought that was fucked up as well, but in the legalities you are an employee creating the work for them - they own it, to the public 'they' created it under their name.
- flickster0
What I don't understand is that everyone that leaves Studio A and interviews for a job at Studio B, has work they've done while employed at Studio A. Is that illiegal, too?
Are you supposed to only have work you designed while in school, or while freelancing (which, doing while at Studio A is frowned upon or seen as competing) in your portfolio while interviewing or trying to gain employment elsewhere?
If you did the work, you should be able to show it. A simple disclaimer stating that the work was done while employed at Studio A should be enough.
I admit, I am bitter, too... I've been down the same road with work that I designed for a major client while employed elsewhere.
It's one thing to post work that you didn't do... but if you designed it, you should be able to show it.
- myobie0
sorry but they own it...
i always get the rights to my work when i do it nowadays to have this not happen...
- JazX0
Did you sign some kind of intellectual property clause?
- opiate0
ok, he is saying that 2 of the examples were comp work and covered under confidentially contracts and is work that hasn't been published. but they didnt get one of the accounts, and the other went live with a UGLY ASS version of my design that they butchered! Any way I'am pulling the 2, My response
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okI will pull comp1 and comp2 examples. But to my knowledge, comp2 went live and the comp1 account went to a different agency. And I was under the impression Comp work falls under intellectual property. But I will pull it - becuase I am sick of this.
I will ad afi credits on the home page. The rest stays...
justin
- warheros0
intellectual property is anything you make that is original.
BUT if you make it for your employer, they own the rights and you must get permission from them to use it.
as i said, most times theyre okay with it. just give them credit and dont lie about what you did on the project.
why dont you just tell them that you see this other previous employee showing work with credit? maybe he'll be like, "oh well, just fix your credits bla bla and youre good"
no need to get your panties in a twist. be civil.