help kill referrer!
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- xrusos
search google for "bay area free fi"
http://www.google.com/search?q=b…notice:
1) http://bayareafreefi.com is NOT on the list!
2) a bunch of sites that link to http://bayareafreefi.com are on the list!
3) http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby…
takes the spot my site deserves on the list!The plan...
I want to boot bobby.watchfire from ever parsing my site! i want to somehow find if bobby.watchfire is looking at my site and redirect it to my page by itself!The need...
I don't have the foggiest clue how to do that! I'm starting to think malicious thoughts.
- xrusos0
another search that kills me!
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p…see bobby taking the number one spot! killin' me!
- xrusos0
what about using javascript like this?
---
if (document.referrer == 'http://bobby.watchfire.com')
{
window.location.href = "neveragain.htm" ;
---
but i want to prevent their little parse script from parsing my code. any way to thward their efforts?
- k0na_an0k0
try a baseball bat to his mellon.
- xrusos0
just got back from taking kOna's advice. unfortunately bobby was wearing a bobby's hat and it blocked my efforts.
any more nerdy/code-like suggestions?
- rabattski0
i don't think bobby is the problem but google.
instead of using javascript try using php. basically the same idea. analyze the url and based on that take some actions (i would go to your url directly). i wouldn't point to a neveragain page because again i think it's google not bobby you should be mad at. actually that way you can use bobby's 1st position.
- xrusos0
i suppose what i really want to do is stop bobby from parsing my code. that way if you try to use bobby it'll just error out.
so some way i want to figure out if bobby is parsing my code, then stop it from doing so. or redirect the parsing page (bobby's page) to mine.
the expected result...
my theory is that bobby is taking my spot at the top of the list, and google is thinking bobby and my site are the same, and therefore not listing my site.so with bobby out of the way, i'll be number one.
whatcha think?
- kpl0
bobby just has a higher pagerank...it's not taking your spot actually, its that your page still needs to accumulate rank. It's still too new.
You page is in the system, but if you get rid of Bobby there's still 10 or so sites that will take its place before it gets to yours.
- xrusos0
yeah, that's what i don't get kpl.
the first 6 links on http://www.google.com/search?q=b… are pages with links to my site. Which in normal world means I should be ranked above them all.
BUT IN CRAZY WORLD... I'm ranked, ummm never.
yet google clearly knows that i exist (as if google's a person)...
http://www.google.com/search?q=s…(but unfortunately doesn't yet have the relations spidered yet... http://www.google.com/search?q=l… )
my thought is that if i exist on the google database... and the top links for a select keyword all link to my site... i should be number 1.
- reluct0
You rank higher based on page text and the amount of links to your page. Get more people to link to you and you'll rank higher.
- xrusos0
all of the first 6 or so links on google link directly to my site! and that's the only link on their site! (at least in terms of content!)
- xrusos0
remember the "break out of frames" script from back in the day when sites would control your content by putting your site into a frame?
it's like that, except i don't want someone controlling my css!
where's my "break out of bobby" script!?
- kpl0
if it makes you feel better, you can search for "bayareafreefi" and you're no.1.
if it helps any, I heard a site map enhances page rankings significantly. I guess that means you should set up a page that lists all locations and link to it a href style.
- xrusos0
yeah, i hear you kpl. i'm starting to think of who might be a good person to ask about this stuff.
as for site map... i already have one... in a sort of cheat way. i have a php include that has all the links to the cities on it. but it's css display is none so people don't see it. it just helps the spiders along.
- gabriel_pc0
I agree it'll have to be something with php, perhaps if you can find out what the header info is for the bobby.watchfire.com spider you can trap for it and send it a page that just points to your site instead of displaying the content. ie the page would just say something like an href to your page and a brief description of the site. Once people start linking directly to you site your rank will go up. unfortunately there's no quick way to do it.
- xrusos0
so how do i go about finding the header info for bobby? what do i need?
- gabriel_pc0
it's a global variable in php:
$HTTP_USER_AGENT;
The output will be something like this:
- ave0
Yoiu could do a redirect based on the remote address , the bobby.watchfire IP. My lookup says it's 65.61.137.119...
If the script sees that address then you forward it to a google search on "bayareafreefi" http://www.google.com/search?hl=…
I wonder what would happen. Just a thought.
To answer you question, you would look in your server log, if you have access to it.
- ave0
...but you wouldn't want to redirect based upon browser type (user agent)
- gabriel_pc0
the user agent of web spiders usually contains the domain of the site they're working for. I doubt the spider would follow a redirect.
this may seem like an odd question, but does it matter if it points to the other server? as long as it's showing your content and listing your site as the originator I would think you're accomplishing your goals. It's kinda like getting free bandwidth on your site. :-)
- ave0
that's what I'm thinking too gabriel... publicity of any kind is good.
But I wonder what would happen if you feed all of your incoming spiders to a google search that you already know will place you first.