Nikelab = Evil
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- rabattski0
"shit he ripped them off! "
actually it was a she.
- silencer0
No I was talking about Phil Knight ;)
- rabattski0
"would the logo have been great if the product behind it was not so innovative as it is/was? "
the logo could have been a square for all i care. it's the marketing / communication that makes nike nike.
- rabattski0
ooooh ok. i thought that you where refering to the designer who did the logo and got $35 instead of $25 and thus ripping nike :)
- silencer0
yeah...that would ahve made more sense haha, Its been a lonnnnnnnnng ass day ;)
- armin0
this girl earned a lot more in years after. rights and, you know all that stuff.
anyway, you cant compaer nike and coca-cola or any other crazy brand...have look on colas adds and on style its megashit. cola taste bad and my nike are fucking comfortable babys!
- ********0
when all the focus was on nike's sweatshops nike really tried to fix things up, as their customers are very socially-conscious people. Truth is, they were already paying 18-cents an hour which was eight cents more-per-hour than the other sweatshops in bangladesh/wherever. If they boosted up the hourly rate to 80 cents an hour then all of the doctor/lawyer/gov't workers/everyone would want to work there.
The problem is when you try to bring the competition of capitalism to a country/area that's not competing.the OTHER problem is WAL-MART. Nike has done all it can within the bounds of capitalism to appease its socially-conscious customers. WAL-MART has no socially-conscious customers; it has customers that want stuff cheap. it's whole ad campaign is a smiley-face zorro who slashes prices from $1.99 to $1.86 or something. People who are trying to save a few pennies tend to not care about 'some poor foreigner'.
Therefore, WAL-Mart has been slow to allow 3rd-party inspection of it's factories, implying that bad stuff is going on.
WAL-MART is EVIL.
but it's convenient, i go there all the time.
*please let no more of my posts be longer than this one.
- ********0
plus nikelab site is so lame, esp the 'zoom-through' through the tunnel with redlights..
- rabattski0
ekard, all the info on both sites don't go beyond 2001. you got any recent info?
- Lop0
I don't like the Nikelab site myself but the work is great.
- Ekard0
looking.........
- rabattski0
really curious. can't find any recent info on nike's practices. i only know nike's statements that they've stopped using child labour and i would like either an independent confirmation or an independent report stating otherwise before i make any judgement.
- ********0
the other thing is that in these other 'non-competing' countries(see my previous post) there are no gov't-funded school systems and the children of a family are viewed as assets to the family and it is common for children to work full-time at an early age. so 'child-labor' isn't actually a horrible thing. I can't believe i just said that.
- lowimpakt0
Nike have made efforts in cleaning their image. They are as paranoid as one corporation can be about their image. They want your money and they will do everything they can to get it. They my be falling in line with certain labour practices but few can actually regard those codes of practice as ethical. It has shown the power of consumer pressure to shift focus onto the damage that the company was responsible for.
the implications in terms of their environmnetal and sustainability record is a whole other thread.
oh and their products are cheap and ugly as hell. The vain attempts at trying to be driven by 'good' design make me laugh.