Evolution Suxxors
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- fate
http://search.barnesandnoble.com…
Expect deep philisophical debates such as:
We can't explain it yet, so it must be the hand of God!
Pi! It rules Sunflowers!
We're self-cognizent beings, so we're special.
Science is hard, it must be God that made it so hard!
- patnoodle0
David Duchovny and Orlando Jones - what a pair of tools. And Julianne Moore is U.G.L.Y.
- Anarchitect0
ahah
then again, this also makes me cry.
- froww0
As "fate" perpetuates the truth that ripping a text out of context makes a pretext... and almost always... for error.
But, just the scholastic dishonesty I would expect here... sigh.
Here's a novel idea: be objective and read it first.
- fate0
I read the intro text on B&N, which YOU linked. It fell closely in line with my cynicism.
- DutchBoy0
hmm...more religious bs??
anyway, i am all for questioning or re--researching established notions within science..
so I can applaud a critical view on Darwin, just like many scientists started to criticize and recontextualize Freud..
- fate0
Hey I have no problem with using logic and facts to dispute theories, but read the intro:
"Cosmologists agree that the universe arose suddenly out of absolute nothingness. But how? And how did it unfold with such painstaking precision?
As biologists continue to probe the cell, the more amazed they are at its intricacies--complexities so staggering that they confound all naturalistic attempts to explain life's origins.
Could it be that the world looks designed because it really is designed?"
- bob0
I just picked up a copy of Refuting Evolution 2.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obido…
- DutchBoy0
teh world is designed... NOT!
like I saw a flash-intro when i was born!
and where are the 45 degree arrows in nature?
ok, i did see a dripping deerhead once..
but does that justify this world is the work of a designer? well?
- unfittoprint0
If people can actually beliveve [or want to] in something as dumb as Creationism, at least be inclined to somethong more outrageous.
I would go for the greek Mythology. Nothing, than Caos, than Cronos. Lots of heroes, monsters, fight and good looking women. And for the ladies out there, these one of a kind creed has a lot of hunky heroes.
unfortunately they're all gay.
In this side of the pond, one asks, how can a president believe in something like "The Rapture"? And then with books like this, we understand.
Fortunately, our highly catholic heritage, ended such nonsense.
- sauceruney0
I have no problem wih 'intelligent design' as long as the people doing the research are open to the fact that our 'gods' may be no more than a creation of a creation of a creation... each generation of creation improving on itself or making some adaptive change for survival.
Mankind is on the verge of such ability now. If we are the sons of 'God', we are about to become parents in our own right.
- gekkokid0
patnoodle - shut up just SHUT UP - Julianne Moore is UGLY WHAT WHAT WHAT lol WHAT NO SHE AINT - no way DONT U TALK ABOUT MY WOMEN LIKE THAT - Shhheeeeeeeeeeeeeee is F I T fit i tell ya FIT AS FCUK
- froww0
Why is it so absurd to consider that the universe is the result of a cognizant and opnipotent creator transcendant of time and space? From the research I've done, it takes considerably more faith to believe that it is the result of random chance. There are just too many holes in the idea of Evolution and now... the holes are starting to get more and more exposure. And, consequently, more and more scientists are abandoning the idea.
If the subject of origins is at all of interest to you... be objective and intellectually honest and compare what both sides have to say.
For a more scientific and scholarly treatment on this subject, check out the following:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obido…
and...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obido…
also...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obido…
:^)
- fate0
froww, don't let books argue for you. If you really want to be objective about this, state a flaw and back it up with facts.
About random chance: Humans just don't have a good enough concept of time. We've only existed as a civilization for only an extreme fraction of the earth's lifespan.
- fate0
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/…
12,000 years of human existence divided by 4.55 billions years of the Earth's age. We've been on this Earth for .000002% of it's total life time thus far.
- ants0
I think one thing that makes me re-examine the theory of evolution would have to be the concept of irreducable complexity. This being where multiple systems within a given organism must have developed at the same time for the animal to exist... take the giraffe for example.
If it did not have valves in its neck to stop blood from moving to its brain as it drops its head its head would explode from the blood pressure, then also this system requires a sponge like part of the brain, and I think a difference in the heart (I'm writing off the top of my head here). all of these systems are interdependent in the body and are required at the same time to allow the giraffe to drink water. So how did it develop all of these systems without dying? because without all of them none would work and all giraffes would be dead.
it's interesting, there are quite a number of animals/organisms with this kind of irreducable complexity.
- Mimio0
Also, read this:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obido…Every argument in this thread so far is addressed.
- one2meny0
Here fate, since you desire some real deep philosophy, check out this:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com…
And if you have no clue what epistemology is in the first case, check out this:
- froww0
Yes, read the book Mimio recommends and read the other side's view. Be objective and come to a conclusion of your own rather than just blindly accepting an idea that flies in the face of scientific laws (like the 2nd law of thermodynamics) or, just blindly accepting Creation Science, for that matter. It's all about education.
By the way... is that cotton candy on that lady's head?