Devaur
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- zedvox0
devaur it is sooo damn cold today and it has been pissing since morning.
its almost june.fuckoregonweather.com
- devaur0
but that is the beauty of oregon! you never know what will hit next
oh wait this is like an ICQ!!!
this means we dont have content!!
- zedvox0
design should be seperated from life.
thats content!
woot woot
- devaur0
maybe design unites life??
- zedvox0
a/s/l ?
now this is offically ICQ.
- zedvox0
design is everywhere
- devaur0
so true
- zedvox0
hey devaur jump back on the design is stupid thread...i can sennse another good/or sexually satisfactory discussion boilin up
- stormzealot0
well right now I actually work for myself and with my brother = www.alphacreative.com
I do a lot of work for a couple very specific clients...
the art show sounds cool, where is it going to be held?
(mail me an invite?)
send me an e-mail and i'll respond, just put newstoday somewhere in the subject line.
- JEWUNIT_0
Good acting; flawed story/psychology; not a total loss
The title comes from an alteration an adolescent inmate in a correctional facility makes on the front cover of his school book on government, titled "The United States;" he adds "of (his name)."
Many characterizations in this movie work well -- the scenes between Leland (Ryan Gosling) and Becky (Jena Malone), Pearl (Don Cheadle) and father Fitzgerald (Spacey) as well as with Leland, Becky and sister Julie (Michelle Williams), among many others.
But the central thread of this movie -- the fulcrum on which everything hangs -- is the character and motives of Leland. He's a somewhat shy, passive, nice high school student who daringly introduces himself to Becky whom (we find) is going to an alternative school because of a past history of drug problems. In Becky's family, she has a sister, Julie, who's just graduating from high school and preparing to go on to college; Julie's boy friend, Julie's age (and whose parents' had recently died) is also living with them.
Leland lives with his mother; his father (Kevin Spacey) and mother have long been divorced and his father is a famous novelist. Leland is very perceptive. The young boy in "The Sixth Sense" saw dead people; Leland sees teenage lovers and recognizes that years later they will divorce, that pain is going to follow many people's present experience of happiness. BUT, for reasons that are never made explicit, his prescient gift seems to operate some times, for some people, some relationships, and not for others. ???
Parts of the movie feel a bit like a derivative quilt -- borrowing from "American Beauty," "The Sixth Sense," "The Graduate," and possibly some others I didn't recognize. That wouldn't be bad if only the character of Leland worked.
I think Gosling did a great job of playing Leland but the script and the story imposed limitations. Would such an observant, meditative young man ever be homicidal? Even for altruistic reasons? Nothing in the film gives a reason for this. I'm a retired therapist with much experience working with families and teenagers; while many of the reactions shown in the film work -- this part, this most essential element certainly does not.
And there is at least one other element which, in my experience, would not fit with real life although it's not as critical. The reason for the differences between the sisters, Becky and Julie, are never hinted at but that's okay. Once two sibs begin occupying different roles (one the all good girl, the other the troubled one), the roles themselves can begin driving each other to more extreme positions. For the troubled one, Becky, it's kind of, "what do I have to do to be loved around here -- give up being me and become Julie?" And the pressure to live up to being the All-Good, parent-pleasing child, is no less intense on Julie. So, why would she break up with her boy friend of long-standing and of whom her parents so obviously approve?
Don Cheadle was good as Leland's teacher; all others were good in their parts. 98% of the scenes were good. What was missing was that crucial slip in understanding human nature.
Good acting; flawed story and psychology; worth seeing; not a total loss.
- iDp0
thank god JEWUNIT added some content to this thread, the beavers and trees were weirding me out
- devaur0
JEWUNIT made my thread cool
see my own thread
- zedvox0
OMG devaur...you brought it back to life!!!
OREGON ROCKS!!!!!
- devaur0
I had to bump it!
A year and a half ago, my father was diagnosed with a horrible form of brain cancer. Within four weeks he had lost all use of his left side and needed 24-hour care. Prior to his diagnosis, he was a healthy, active 72-year-old. If he was not an Oregon resident and had the opportunity to make a choice about how he was to die, he would have continued to deteriorate well beyond what would have been appropriate for a proud man. As it was, he was able to have his daughter, brother and four dogs around him, peacefully dying in his home through physician-assisted suicide.
- devaur0
I am
- tparsons0
Devaur - Is that for real?
- devaur0
no just stating what oregon is like.
i realized after i posted it that i didnt put the news headline in.
whoops!
sorry.
- devaur0
thought it was an important issue in oregon
- tparsons0
Getting me all sad and stuff for nothing.
Now you owe me lunch.
- devaur0
awww you care! LOL
i dont do lunch. LOL
actually we should meet up sometime soon.