Toughest Lesson
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- slinky
so, since you began doing design and/or programming.... what has been your biggest hurdle up to date? What was your most difficult struggle.
just curious on this quiet day at work before Turkey-Day.
- bomy_dick0
the most difficult time i had was one of my very first jobs as a graphic designer, back in 97..
i had 3 interview, the job was nice doing interactive cd roms etc..finally i got hired, the guy wasn't nice at all but i thought the experience would be good.
As soon as i arrives he asked me to do a map in illustrator, which i did nd a few other thing. i can't remember doing anything wrong that day.
next morning i came to work all happy and willing to do my best an,d the guy just told me he could not keep me , i didn't fit etc..
i asked why , and also told him to give me at least a month so he could really judge lmy skills etc.. noway..
i was 'fired'
believe it or not but they weren't many jobs and i was disgusted for a first experience to deal with people like that..
it took me months just to get back my confidence and my motivation.. now i 'm almost bulletproof but at that time i needed positive energy to be able to give my best.after that i really had some trouble feeling confident about what i was doing..
today i still think i'll never do that to someone who starts, cause it's stupid..
- swollenelbow0
learning damn quark. that program gave me the hardest time, and it still does. i hate it.
- Mr_Raspin0
clients wishes
- ********0
After leaving the bubble that was university I found turning a job round in 5 hours quite a disturbing hurdle.
- shutdown0
learning to keep cool when client keeps changing friggin mind!
- rasp0
identity work can be two days instead of six weeks
- bomy_dick0
apart from that .. Flash..
flash is the biggest pain in the ass for me..
cause i have to code and that's something i hate..
i don't really know where to begin
even after a two week course at a fine school i feel like i'm never gonna do something with that actionsxript..
- DeLeon0
Learning PHP awhile back... I had been doing a lot of scripting and coldfusion that the mindset for learning it was a bit different
- mbr0
My toughest thing is what I am going through now...
My client is screwing me, big time. I thought I had written two good contracts (one for web, one for 3D). They were supposed to by paid in 1/4 installments. Halfway through one, he insisted that I start the other. So, since I had received half the money for the 3D contract, I said 'yes'.
Now he doesn't need any of it (he f*cked up his project, losing $100s of Gs), so I am f'd out of the rest of both contracts, that were 90% done.
So don't do a damn thing unless you will get a pay check a few days later!!
I do thank God that I got some money out of it, and I plan to pursue it all the way to court, but it'll be tough.
- mitsu0
mbr, i have an unrelated question for you.
- vespa0
yea actionscripting makes me tear my hair out! at least I know approx how long it will take to visually get a solution for something. with code it's possible to go backwards! seems like it's really easy to do the easy things, then super hard to do the hard stuff, with nothing in between.
- Bluejam0
Corporate America™ is not a nice place. Dellusions of grandur, the necessity to climb the ladder, the politics of name dropping and the misguided notion that ideas come cheap. Plus it's a breeding ground for stoopidity®.
- mitsu0
for me it's dealing with managers that want something done fast and right, or just fast. both are irritating, especially when it's a project that you know you'll be revisiting later whether it be for mainenance, support or to add content/features/etc.
this is especially difficult when you work along side those brown-nosing people who don't have a passion for the work they do, but work in the industry soley for the money. those are the ones that turn out the work that project managers like to see. then you have a pm who's thinking is, if johnny b. simpleton can do it in a week, you most assuredly can do it in a week as well. go ask johnny b simpleton how he did it. (sure, i'd looove to be educated by someone with 5 less years experience as me at how to use a wysiwyg editor!)
- rson0
What Bluejam said...plus the coding im still learning as I go.
- chach0
quantifying what I do.
proposing project timelines.
appeasing the clients that'need' to know details about 'the creative process'
- ********0
object-oriented stuff with AS in Flash. Also some of the Java I've learned wasn't easy.
- ********0
hmm on second thought, mastering sounds can be quite tricky as well.
- unknown0
Finishing college and realizing that even with a degree, it's still very difficult to get started, get a job doing what you studied, be excited that you're doing what you went to school to do.
They set you up in a way to think that when you're done, it's as simple as sending out resumes and you're going to have many offers.
They sometimes don't help you prepare any decent work for your portfolio, and don't push networking and meeting people nearly as much as they should.September 11th didn't help the job market much either, with respect to Advertising and Marketing.
- monkeyshine0
One that I'm still learning is when I get a client who has the ugliest identity on earth and I spend time thinking out and creating something way beautiful in comparison and they all of a sudden get all nitpicky and critical.
This continues to amaze me.
I guess I make the assumption that they clearly have no taste so when they see whatever I do, they'll be nothing but thankful. Never seems to work that way.
- ********0
that's true monkeyshine, human nature is that way. Once they know you can do something for them they try to push you because they are greedy fucking monkeys. :)