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- gabriel_pc0
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- mitsu0
sorry, kpl, i wasn't clear. i wasn't implying that open-source web standards increase risks.
- kpl0
open source speeds things up. faster exploits, but faster patches, faster trust from administrators in the patches, etc.
anyway, it's not about linux being the new king of the hill. it's about breaking the monoculture, and getting microsoft's security-lacking ,made-by-a-dysfunctional-corpora... crap out of the way.
- jpea0
i agree with sparker.
try to learn what you're talking about before you utter warnings.
(not a knock to anyone in particular, just an observation).as far as transactions on the web go, more than half the internet is powered by apache servers anyway (mostly running on *nix servers). This is just going to go up because of apache's benefits over IIS.
Now, if you're talking transaction security from the "user" end (eg: browsers, email, etc...) then this theoretically should be more secure than closed source products any day. No one could get away with sticking a trojan into a major browser release without someone finding it within a day of its release. c'mon.
as far as desktop linux goes, if programs were ported to linux that are popular in the windows/mac world, many people would switch (i believe).
AND, i think that since OSX has programs being written for it by the major developers, Linux shouldn't be too far behind. It's not that much of stetch to port from OSX(BSD) to any form of linux. Hell, many large media production studios have moved or are considering linux as their solution. They get the major software companies to port and then you see little ones follow.Just my 2cents
- jpea0
guess i came off as you predicted:-)
- mitsu0
"as far as transactions on the web go, more than half the internet is powered by apache servers anyway"
yeah, i'm not worried about the server in these instances, but rather the casual end user who is running linux. the holes i'm talking about have nothing really to do with the transactions that take place, but the information stored on your computer. a port scan and a buffer overload, a script or two and i'm in watching you. it's the way windows is broken into, or linux just the same.
- mitsu0
btw, i really hope linux does give MS a run for its money, i just think people should be more informed about the good AND bad aspects of open source.
and on that topic, if any of you have ever read my rants on the topic before, you know i support it. in fact to the end that i think no digital media should be copyrightable. at all!
- unknown0
Quoted from article:
"They include desktop windows that become translucent so users can see what programs are open underneath. The system also allows users to rotate video players so as to see the reverse image"1)As for "translucent windows" that is 100% a gimic.
Hello? Toolbar anyone? You know, the one that sits at the bottom of the desktop and has these buttons you can push to bring up EVERYTHING YOU ARE WORKING ON!And "rotate video players"
???????????????????????
Why, so I can watch a movie backwards?
- sparker0
it isn't about linux being better, it is about choice. i shouldn't 'have' to use windows or mac if i choose not to...and i do...i use linux for mostly everything now.
as far as software ports...that isn't the fault of linux, it is the fault of the developer.
if no one made flash for mac...mac enthusiasts would be bitching too.
of course there are good and bad things about open-source, just like there are good and bad things about closed source and about windows, linux and mac.
but there shouldn't be limitations and restrictions placed on users.
i am not a zealot by any means...i just prefer to make up my own mind on occasion.
:)
as for no copyrights, i have to disagree with you there...patents and copyrights are important, the problem is that the current law is screwed up, and greedy people can run amuk with them...
- kpl0
monoculture.
heh. love that word. images of disease and germs in a petri dish. which is the same image I get whenever I think of microsoft.
- jpea0
i agree mitsu, one big step i think the larger linux distributors have to take is to make a default install more secure. For a simple user, not having services running that aren't needed (httpd, sendmail, etc.. )
Right now, the main distro's are targeting their products toward the computer savvy user that might want these services, but if they want the average desktop market this is a step that needs to be taken. (that, and the major one of getting app's ported to linux).
- unknown0
So I'm guessing no one read the Linux article in Wired this month with Linus Torvalds?
- mitsu0
"as for no copyrights, i have to disagree with you there...patents and copyrights are important, the problem is that the current law is screwed up, and greedy people can run amuk with them..."
yes, that is the problem and the sole reason i have that opinion. and to state the obvious, you'll never be devoid of greedy people or screwed up laws.
as for there being issues with 'closed-source' i coulnd't agree more. in fact, i'd be ranting a hell of a lot more if the situation was reversed and windows was looking to take over linux.
- unfittoprint0
I have a finnish friend that was a pupil where Linus Torvalds teached.
He's the reason why I became aware of the principles and potential of Open Source... Walked around with an hardrive in his jacket and would plug it for some perl hardcoding...
- unknown0
It was a cool article. Did you read it? It's still out in stores.
- unknown0
How do you pronounce Linux?
I've heard:
L-EYE-NUCKSLEE-NUCKS
LIN-UCKS
Honestly I could care less. But I must know.
- unfittoprint0
#1.
At least I think so.
- xrusos0
lin-ucks
as in a fish's "fin", or a mortal "sin"