why people rip?
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- powerz
http://www.bullrot.com/site.html… ripped from http://www.microbians.com, at last they could do his own texture???
- ********0
lack of something better to do.
- shellie0
the client said "i want a site exactly like this and i'll pay you 20k"
hmmm.. i dunno
- jpea0
that's usually what happens to me. "i want my site to look like this!, that's soooo cool".
- shellie0
if the person was hard up for cash.. it would be hard to say no when someone is offering you money not to think.
it doesnt make it happen.. but i can see how it would easily happen. i get people all the time saying make it EXACTLY like this. theyre not joking either.. they want it EXACTLY like what theyre asking for.. and it usually turns intro a struggle to make it remotely original once the client is through.
- shellie0
*it doesnt make it right.
- sexypixel0
i prefer the rip
- powerz0
but if someone do a ripped design for a cliend they are moving problems in terms of copyrights to her cliends, as designers we have more responsability in what we do ... if it's only for 20 buks best to work in other kind of work.. don't you thnk do?
- sexypixel0
i think you 't' key is playing tricks on you
- bob0
Evolution of design, my dear friend.
In the vain of Photoshop Tennis.
http://www.coudal.com/tennis.php…I am convinced that mimicking a style and elements of others' art is normal.
Copying others' code and copy-protected content is not right.
- cookie0
yeah I know this guy who not only had site copied but they had the nerve to link the images (as in background and so on) directly from their site!
Changing the the image files to flashing animated gifs that said somthing in the vein of "DON"T STEAL MY MOTHERFUCKING IMAGES ARSEHOLE!!" changed that relatively quick (though slower than you'd think - it had a good few weeks of that image flashing all over their website before they realised..).
Good times.
- toqueboy0
dont' you think it's appropriate that a 'hiphop' site "sampled" another site?
- mitsu0
what kills me is that almost every rip that i've ever seen has had a copyright notice for all 'proprietary' images and content on their site below their work. it's uncanny.
- hk_dwayne0
that excuse about 'the client wanted something exactly the same....' is just fucking pathetic....so you're hard up, and the client is offering you 20k.....is that worth getting sued over? And you think the judge is going to take pity on you when you wimper 'but he asked me to do it...'? get real....tell the client, and get him to sign something, that he'll take full responsibility for any legal repercussions, quadruple your fee :-)
- shellie0
dwayne youre an idiot if you think anyone would get sued over that site. it would never stand up in court so thats why nobody's sueing.
the best that can be done is to have the person who designed that embarrassed and ruined because they didnt follow the *designer code*
there is no glory in being heavily influenced by another site.. but any judge will say they made enough changes to make it theirs. if you could print those sites out on transparencies and put one over the other and held it to the light and they were identical.. there would be a case.
im sure the dood who wrote the code for the microbians site didnt get a patent for that particular navigation.. and if he did someone could recreate it using different means.
copyright means you own the right.. to the COPY (as in words) on the site.. anything else you'll have to get a design patent for buddy.
it sucks.. but we are very unproected.. we're all working off an invisble rule book. sad but true. i personally wish there were more regulations on digital design.
- sexypixel0
hey, where can i get a copy of the *designer code*.
is it a book? a plane or maybe a bird?
- 0711830
Look at some of Bodoni's earliest works (such as Saggio tipografico), and compare it with Pierre Simon Fournier le Jeune. The similarities are startling. Bodoni even used the same borders!
But hey, he's considered one of the finest designers. He didn't rip. He was "influenced." Which I agree on, as he evolved his style into something different.
My point is, "ripping" has occured for many centuries, and will likely always occur. Someone does something that everyone likes. "Influence" is expected. I don't completely condone it, but on the other hand, I think history has shown a lot of people have grown from their copycat days.
- jpea0
originality has only come about in the last 60 years in my opinion.. designers (of anything) have usually tried to stay with the tried and true norms of the day. the ones that we remember today were the influential ones and tried something different.
ie: carson in the early 90's, vignelli in the 50-60's with strict grids (he's an asshole though), hell, even cina with his clean vectors when everyone seemed to be doing the opposite.now look at how many styles are copied off of those today:
carson - can we say everyone and their bro??
vignelli - everyone and their bro
cina - everyone, their bro, and their next door neighborripping is all relative, but it'll never get your recognized
- unknown0
designer's code
bwuhahahaha
I never heard about a lawsuit which features a couple of designers.
stealing might not get you recognition but it gets you clients, y'all know who I'm talkin' 'bout.
nobody gives a fuck if your deadline is 24 hours away you gon' steal, everybody is stealing and sometimes the deadline is 12 hours away and your steal the whole shit. You get paid, client is happy and he recommends you to other potential clients. Repeat.