Internships...
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- mds
... good or bad?
I've been on a couple and they have been to my advantage after graduating.
It would be interesting to read both sides.
- AnotherMe0
Im at an internship right now at big spaceship. and it really rocks cause people here are very talented. puss.
- vespa0
I thought big spaceship is in NY?
- mds0
AnotherMe. hope your getting some money for your efforts! good luck +_+
- nh0
So how do people survive while working as an intern?
I've only had shit for design jobs, some of that get your foot in the door stuff and have never lived in a large city so I guess it's somewhat expected. I was under the impression that internships were unpaid, and I wasn't going to move into a big city and increase my cost of living so I could become homeless.
- vespa0
I wish I'd done that for a few weeks when I was starting out - if you are going to not get paid then you may as well not get paid at a good agency and learn something/make contacts.
- unknown0
Unpaid interships are designed to keep poor peope out of skilled professions. I can't think of any other reason they exisit. All my friends who are writers can't work in publishing because every magazine in NYC wants them to intern for free. Who the fuck has 40 hours a week available to work for FREE?
- crapmeister0
a jobless person maybe?
- mds0
I gave up 2 months to live in London to have a paid internship at RDF televsion building and designing microsites. Its a shame work ran out and so did the contract or I'd still be there.
I've had another at Attik Hudds which was expenses paid. couldn't hack being in debt so I left. Life is a bitch!
- unknown0
"a jobless person maybe? "
If I just finished school and I am 50 grand in the hole and broke, how am I supposed to move to NYC and work for free? Normal people have to work to pay rent/food/etc. Not everyone has a rich daddy to pay the bills while they "gain valuable work experience".
I have no problem with companies that issue a small stipend or pay shitty. At least they are paying something.
When I was finishng college my friends and I were amazed that there were huge comapnies that expected us to move to Boston or NYC or SF and work for FREE for 9 months, full time. WTF????? I ended up working construction jobs for 2 years while I grovelled for freelance work, which is pretty common for us non-trust-fund proletariats.
- instantok0
2 summers ago i worked 2 internships...40 hours a week...for free...and being good did not help...i felt stupid having to go back to the art director every 5 minutes with "i finished what you asked have anything else?"...the owner at one of them took me out and bought groceries for me...that was cool...we played a lot of foosball...worked occasionally
- crapmeister0
I was joking chew
unpaid internships suck
- mds0
You feel your heart and skill is torn out of your chest and pissed on!
+_+
- unknown0
"I was joking chew
unpaid internships suck "oh, sorry, I was blinded by my endless seething rage at the world.
- unknown0
inetnships are fundamentally wrong. like someone said they only encourage rich kids to apply. My ex worked for 6 months for nothing in Fashion, I ended up fucking paying. outragous.
here we pay everyone, a wage. If you're any good, you dont need an internship. dont be attracted to the name of where you could work for free. ultimatley you probabally wont get a job, and be left a year behind your peers who've been getting paid.
At the end of the day its a job. and one of the biggest industries in the world to boot. you dont get trainee lawyers working for free, they get 22k. they are just as educated as you. Dont sell your self out.
My 1st job was for 15k, within 6 months I was on 25k.
dont need to do it for free.
- unknown0
just as a note. What happened to junior designers?
If you're fresh out of a degree course you are technically a junior designer. you've done a good chunk of your training.
Personally, I dont see why these kids just dont apply for junior positions.
- instantok0
its hard while you are still in school (as i am)...we dont get paid because we have less experience but we cant work for free because we dont have time to take on another job that pays...so then we dont take the internship and go work retail to pay our bills...but then we dont get the experience so back to the beginning...so i just bit it and lived on $300 for a whole summer while i interned...it wasnt much fun...
- grafiske0
I am clearly not the best, but I am interning here: http://smithnjones.com and I feel a bit out of place as far as style goes. I would have to say that internships should pay the state's minimum wage, same as janitors except you do work a bit more important.