US fines Human Shields
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- lowimpakt0
yea I thought it was ironic that the anti-terror laws were used against the protestors at that arms fair. ironic considering its the arms trade and these fairs in particular that are responsible for much of the terror and militarised dictators in the world. hypocrisy is too weak a word.
- Jamesh0
Those damned human shields!
Don't they know we were going to bomb the water treatment plants, electriacal grid, dams, schools, hospitals and TV stations.. AGAIN!?!?
peace...BAH!!
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- nosaj0
Don't get me wrong... I'm not suggesting that these people made a poor moral decision. I'm not saying what they were doing was wrong. I'm just stating that is could be considered treason under US law. With that being the case they could have come back to much more trouble then a $10,000 fine.
- lowimpakt0
Then surely the NGO's and charities should be tried for treason because they are assisting the civilians of Iraq. Then surely the US talk of humanitarian assistance should be withdrawn immediately because they then are in fact commiting treason against themselves.
- vespa0
I'm reading 1984 again for the first time since I was 17.
I forgot how incredible that book is. If you haven't read it recently, it is so relevant right now, especially regarding the erosion of our civil liberties in the name of the war on terror.
WAR IS PEACE.
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
- ********0
actually, some of the NGO's in Iraq got a massive warning from the US Gov recently. I've worked with International NGO's and Non-Profits, I know how they tick. They're pretty bad overall.
- ********0
I mean, it's hard to say, but at some point in time you really need to know when to say when and step back from powers greater than yourself. Ex: Human Shield vs. US Military. I mean come on. :)
- Nairn0
I admit, I'm not old enough to have a proper, long-term perspective, but that said:
Does anyone else think some kind of revolution's on the horizon? And if not, shall we start one?
- ********0
Anarchy
- lowimpakt0
not if you cant tolerate the 'greater power' killing thousands of innocent people and you believe with all your sense that the war was an illegal occupation for the benefit of the rich of the world. Actually it was illegal under international law so there is no questions there.
If i was in a position where I could defend innocent civilians against murder (dont kid yourself that its anything less simply because they wear a uniform) I would like to think I would do anything in my power to help them. I dont give a fuck what military you are or give a fuck what country your from i would want to stop innocent people dying.
- monkeyshine0
After you're done reading 1984, read Handmaid's Tale...spooky.
- Bluejam0
"Does anyone else think some kind of revolution's on the horizon? And if not, shall we start one? "
A time traveller from 2036 said there's gonna be an amercian civil war in 2004/2005 which lasts ten years before the nukes fly.
- monkeyshine0
I think Americans are too complacent for something like a civil war. Middle America just wants to hear that everything is going to be fine and whoever lulls them with that refrain will rule. Cynical but true, I fear.
- ********0
Civil War, haaa, haa maybe a Food Eating War, but that's about it. We don't fight each other man, we love each other. ;)
- lowimpakt0
JazX. what Ngo's did you work for?
- Fanco0
through every government there is corrution.
through every revolution there is the creation of a new government.
its a loop. it will allways be a loop. its bitter but its true.
People do try to make governments better and more tollerant. unfortunantly the middle classes stoped caring and the higher class pass laws to prevent such change and control the media.
- xrusos0
if it's true, he should just record the next phone conversation. then submit it to the media.
too bad though... he'll be audited by the IRS for a lifetime.
- lowimpakt0
first step in a revolution is knowing what the alternative is and how it can be achieved.
- brundlefly0
what is happening in the U.S.
I can't imagine that if I had gone to another country, for whatever reason, if it was perfectly legal for me to fly there, the country I am from should have ANY rights to charge me or fine me for actions I took while there. It doensnt make any sense.
American's should be afraid, and question their gov't, it is supposed to be a democracy, did anyone want to go to war with Iraq? Is this the gov't representing the people like they are supposed too?
I love Canada!