Po mo films
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- pi
This is just a thought, but would you consider those often dumb, and unfunny parody films such as say the naked gun series, wayne's world (to an extent) or the hot shot movies to be post modernism. I mean the idea that instead of creating something new to entertain the masses, they just take existing pop culture film concepts / characters / ideas and change the context. That seems like central idea of post modernism to me but the fact that these films emerge from hollywood for the sole purpose to make money not art kind of skews the the theory. Any thoughts? Cause this has been bugging me for a while now.
- lind0
Po mo seems to be based on philosophy and art history -- more high brow and elitist otherwise everything would be po mo.
I think maybe the second Austin Powers movie (I haven't seen the 1st) is pretty po mo and commercial at the same time. Less commercial movies like 24 Hour Party People is more po mo. The ultimate po mo has to be the Cremaster series -- art movies by Matthew Barney the Guggeinheim Museum is showing right now.
- pi0
I suppose I should re-phrase it and say po mo-esque. I don't consider them to be truely post modernism (ie Chunking Express) but below the surface, after it is all stripped away and put into contemporary context, is there some po mo at the root of it all?
- o0o0
I don't know if it's possible to separate post-modern from pop culture. I think it should be post-pop-modern..
well, I mean I think post-modernism was kind of elitist art-history stuff... but it has leaked into all aspects of popular culture. I mean the extreme sarcasm that most of us play with is po mo, in a sense. We're not taking things as they were intended, we're one step above looking at it in context. I dunno, this is just my instinct. I don't really have anything to back it up.
I have two little brother's who watch a lot of tv. They are totally sarcastic with all their jokes, and their always referencing something. Half the time, the don't even know what the original reference was, they just caught it on tv, and they're recycling it. I have to tell them what it originally meant. It's like po mo is in a recursive loop.
- cookie0
I dunno that po_mo is just based on philosophy and art history. I'm on the verge of completing a sociology major in which we've examined post modernism. From what I've learnt - it's really fucking confusing and complicated. I'm pretty sure that post modernism could apply to those movies at least in some degree but considering the amount of viewpoints it incorporates I wouldn't be surprised if it could apply to anything in any time.
i'm relatively sure I was of no help here so I'll be moving right along.