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- vespa0
Wikked mrming! Esp the one of Blair banging Liberty... LOL
- vespa0
Rubber bullets? That's awful...
- petzi0
yes, wicked : )
- mrming0
Wantage (and outlying villages) against the war!
- ********0
rubber bullets are like confetti in Switzerland, the police don't fuck about!! But it's always just a couple of "autonomic left radicals" that provoke it....
normally I just think idiots but with a cause as important as this it really pisses me of to hear they're at it!!
- petzi0
on thursday, these black-block idiots really tried to start an aggressive riot.
they're as bad like the facist idiots this time.
- ********0
Petzi, seen Billy-Boy Cocorico recently??
Haven't heard anything for ages....
- petzi0
nope. seems like he's very busy... what are your plans? you come here next time?
- ********0
maybe only in September or October....
maybe for good if Tony makes it any more dangerous to live in this country.....
need to renew the CH passport NOW
- RyanS_BD4D0
why are people so ignorant? have you lived under an oppressor? it saddens me that free countries can't unite with their leaders.
Nobody likes war but peopel like saddam should never rule...
- mrming0
RyanS:
Have you lived under an opressor then? Are you saying that because I don't agree with this war that I am ignorant?
- RyanS_BD4D0
yes i have - for 21 years and my family and friends in zimbabwe are still living under the iron fist of a dictator and his cronies. thankfully i live in london now but for some it is not as easy to get out...
i just think people should look at the bigger picture. saddam has gassed his own people. put people into shredders - the lucky ones went in head first. the not so lucky ones went feet first. can you even imagine such cruelty???
like i said, NOBODY likes war but sometimes people have to stand up for what is right. this isn't a popular opinion but i have lived in a place where people are scared to stand up to their own government. something that unless you have lived it you probably wouldn't understand - have you ever lived in a place where you are NOT free to protest and if you do you get beaten or tortured? i just don't see what all this anti war sentiment is going to achieve? please don't take your freedom for granted.
- mrming0
RyanS:
It is outrageous to suggest that US interests in Iraq are motivated by anything other than greed and power. The war has already caused the invasion of Northern Iraq by Turkey, where a system of self government was in place and working well. The war is threatening to destabilise the whole of the region. The US government are bunch of militant neo-conservative war-hawks intent on ensuring the continued expansion of the american empire for the next century. US foreign policy is aggressive and makes them are target for terrorist attacks. The US media is a government mouthpiece and any claims to the moral high ground by the US administration are in my view laughable. This is coming from the former governer of a state which still has the death penalty.
(Imho)
- RyanS_BD4D0
i'm sorry but you are missing the point. leaving saddam in place would have achieved what?
the US doesn't rule the world my friend. they have a lot of sway but to say that they are 'expanding their empire' - i find that laughable.
the US will be out of Iraq when they are done. if they are not then people like you (and myself) will make our voices heard. until then, i find this whole anti-war thing a little absurd. The world is a crazy place and with one less dictator maybe the world will focus on more important things like the millions starving...
- ********0
RyanS_BD4D:
"the US will be out of Iraq when they are done"
Exactly.
Like they were out of Afghanistan too.....
their involvement there has really helped the people of that country hasn't it??
- RyanS_BD4D0
do you really think afgans were better off under the taliban?
things don't change over night. look at paris after it was liberated...
- mrming0
RyanS:
I bet you a fiver that there will remain a permanent US military presence in Iraq once they have completed their 'regime change'.
Have a look at this article from pulitzer prize winning journalist John Pilger:
- ********0
aren't the taliban regrouping??
didn't america promise to "rebuild" Afghanistan??
look at the democracy that was introduced to Germany after WWII splitting the country in 2
It's not Black and White but there are more shades of grey than are perceptible to the human eye (or indeed mind). There is no concrete "good" and "evil"
But at the end of the day fighting a war criminal by perpetrating war crimes can't be right either.
- RyanS_BD4D0
don't get me wrong here, i dis like bush as much as you but rest assured he won't be in power for the next 5, 10 or 20 years... at least we hope not.
- mrming0
RyanS:
A fiver then?
:-)