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- nsurgents
question on photoshop.
This isn´t a "how do i make those pretty lights" question...It´s a question on why photoshop renders gradients as "bands" or rings sometimes. It doesn´t do it all the time, only when I don´t want it to.
Here´s an example.
Has anyone figured this problem out? The design is for a print project, so will they even show up in the print? If so, how do i get rid of it?
Thanks!
- grunt0
have you printed it on your color inkjet? I have had the same problem but usually it is only on screen and it looks great come press time.
- unknown0
try changing your monitor setting to millions of colours or increase the resolution in photoshop. For standard print quality have it on 300dpi....for visuals I generally have it on 120dpi. But it shouldnt print out like that, I reckon its just your settings!!
- nsurgents0
It is at 300dpi, and it does do it on printout.
hmmm. I'm just worried because the client is spending 1,200 for it to be printed...
- bacillo20
if your file is 300dpi and you are viewing it at 72dpi, then it will look bad. i also does that when you resize. pretty much same idea.
- unknown0
if your printing your visuals from a inkjet printer?? then try cleaning the printer heads!???!
- nsurgents0
Ah, i see what you're saying. But what about people that use many gradients, like the spacial abstracts of jens karlsson, james widegren, etc etc that I've seen with my monitor that don't have that issue?
- nsurgents0
haha. no. I'm sending it to print, but proofing on the inkjet.
- bacillo20
im guessing that they design in 72 dpi, but im probably wrong. but whenever i had that happen, i do the gradient at the size it will be (no resize)
- grunt0
i asked if you had printed on your inkjet just to see if you had seen it beyond the screen. Inkjets print at a low res anyway but often you'll get a better idea of how it will look when viewing the printed comp as opposed the on screen. If you're working at 300 dpi i wouldn't sweat it too much. Express your concerns to the printer and they should say "No Problem." Good Luck.
- motivdesign0
It depends on the color space you're working with, and how many levels of difference there are between the color you're starting with and the color you're gradating to.
If all else fails, recreate the gradient in Illustrator to see if it looks the same way.
The RGB colorspace is much larger than the CYMK color space, so if your doc is in CYMK mode, try recreating it in RGB and then convertint to CYMK from there. Sometimes you'll get different results.
- unknown0
this may be stupid. but
double click the magnify tool
lol..dunno
- gabe0
for something small and simple like that you can just use a blur (gaussian) to smooth out the rough gradient
- surfito0
i know theres a way to make perfect gradients, i just dont remember.
i know the gradient tool gives better results.
but anyways, i never had that problem so i cant help much.
try bluring it. maybe if you ad a litle bit of motion blur top to bottom the problem should disapear.
- J0
Hahaha - some crazy suggestions.
It's because you're in CMYK (right.... you ARE in CMYK yeah?)
And as someone said, yeah, it's the colour space thing. Gausian blurring will make no difference.
The trick is, to add a layer of 'noise' (static) on a layer above, set it to softlight and knock its opacity down low, maybe 5 - 10, dunno, experiment. This breaks the bands a little and makes the gradation more organic. Use with caution - dont have the opacity too high or you may see the 'noise'.... oh and obviously use 300 dpi.
It's worked for me before.
- gabe0
it has nothing to do with CMYK! i run into this occasionally doing screen work (RGB, 72dpi)
your suggestion may work just as well, but the rest of our suggestions were far from crazy dude.
- J0
"Try changing your monitor settings" ?? "Try cleaning the printheads" ??
Some people didn't look at the link given - those suggestions wouldnt have any effect on a screenshot of the problem, unless the guy had litterally scanned a print-out / photographed the screen!) hence I said 'crazy suggestions' - they would be of no use, but no harm no fowl! Just found it funny!
And how can you say "it has nothing to do with CMYK!" it could well be that! I know, you're right, you can get the same probelm in RGB, like, if you have overlaid imagery on your grad's or proccessing layers like levels or hue/sat - but in CMYK grad's can look really ropey as soon as you've drawn them, without any processing, because of the whole colour (yes, coloUr - i'm English, sorry) space issues mentioned by motivdesign. If that's the problem - the noise solution can help. If it's not that, it can still help. Since this is a print job - I think it was safe to assume it'd be CMYK and therefore, it's a common problem i've seen, and remedied in this way many times. Please don't shout me down! :(
- surfito0
just use the gradient tool then.
and see what happens.
- J0
http://www.adobe.com/support/tec…
NB. Solution 5
- gabe0
right on
