National ID Cards

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    It's said that if you put a frog into boiling water it will sense the danger immediately and leap out.

    However, if you put a frog into tepid water and slowly raise the heat it will never notice but it will die.

    Having lived in the UK for 4 years and as a former US resident I can say that it's a treat to be able to go out with nothing but cash and not feel like a criminal for not carrying ID. I don't need one to buy booze, I don't have to produce one to use the transport system, I don't even have to produce one when I'm stopped by the police for not having a train ticket.

    Those that want to commit fraud will find ways to commit fraud, those that want to commit crimes will commit crimes. Same goes for terrorism, restrictions such as the Real ID seem to only effect those that are honest. It goes further to promote a culture fear and distrust of your fellow citizens. You are no one without your ID and you will be arrested or at least treated with suspicion until your ID is verified. Which means that basically the same freedom that I have here in the UK to travel anonymously without evidence besides my own words is slipping towards non-existence in the US and everyone seems to be happy about that. But I have a different experience than most, having had the ability to live in what I consider to be a much freer country in some respects and the contrast especially in regards to topics such as this and how the UK and American populations react is startling.

    The water will continue to get warmer.

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