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Asking how something was made is a sign of insecurity. When you see an image, instead of experiencing it, you focus on the process, as if naming the tool will make it safer. You mistake the tool for the intent and the trace for the experience.
Everything visible is already mediated: pigment, lens, pixel and light. There is no purity left to recover, it's all translation. Yet the old reflex persists: if we can identify the technique, perhaps we can shield ourselves from its impact.
Skill matters, but only as a form of language. Beyond that, the work either holds up or it doesn't. The rest: the taxonomies and moral hierarchies of 'real' versus 'fake' are merely a way of avoiding the fact that seeing has never meant knowing.
- "Oh, wow, that's an expensive-looking camera. You must be a good photographer."Continuity
- Exactly, the image isn’t in the gear, it’s in the seeing.palimpsest
- Yes, but sometimes, if you are a creative, its curiosity, about seeing something different in your mind and wondering if it would be possible to do this.webazoot
- I’ve asked this several times and it’s not insecurity. Usually with motion and animation. It’s curiosity.monospaced
- Yes, but my argument wasn’t about how ideas are executed, but about what happens before we even name them as ‘ideas'. How they are perceived.palimpsest
- That first instant of seeing, before process or curiosity.palimpsest
- But I did say 'Asking how something was made is a sign of insecurity.' so I can see how that was read literally.palimpsest
- It was your “thesis” statement ;)monospaced
- @grok is this true?NBQ00
- Why is this not true?
Post facts, to debunk.palimpsest - surely gigers art fucks u up proper without or with knowing the technique...form of languange is superior when u consider yourself a formalist.neverscared
- An awkward question, before the advent of AI, how many years of your life did you spend perfecting your style and skills?OBBTKN
- It probably has nothing to do with what you were saying, Pali, but... I was waiting at a traffic light, and I thought it was a good idea to say it ;)OBBTKN
- This is great pali, it really got me thinking about how I react when I encounter a new work, and for me it’s always a fascination not with the process - paints_niko
- Lenses, techniques etc but with the thinking and journey of how they got to this place, what makes them tick._niko
- lets hope the whole a.i thing finally pushes creatives into a post branding civilisation and makes all the nonsense adverstising obsolete because of ubiquity ofneverscared
- close to zero skill high resolution output.neverscared
- amen @nsOBBTKN
- @niko, I think it’s fair to say that we can do both — appreciate the art and the journey for what it is, and then also be curious about process and technique.monospaced
- I just don’t think it’s that big of a deal to ask as to judge someone by it.monospaced
- All you who watched the show "How It's Made" are insecure and weak! It's a fact! Prove me wrong.pango
- I've found process and tools are more the focus when learning. When fluent in those, then there's the space for more direct creativity.mort_
- "If I know you did it, then I can do it too, and then we are equal"cannonball1978
- I have to admit that as a retired image maker, I do tend to default to looking at the rigging as much as the scene. This was always apparent whenever...Horp
- My partner wanted to buy a piece of art for the home. I'd be a PITA and say "but it's just bright paint splashed about. I can do that for free", but I never didHorp
- Even more, it's just light reflected into your cornea and transformed intro electrical impulses.palimpsest
- ^ that plus the story about itmort_