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    For my anti-Jeezus freaks.

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    • Por que no los dos?Continuity
    • It's the difference between enjoying tacos and making a march against French tacos. Both French tacos and a march against them is ridiculous.palimpsest
    • That cut deep!Continuity
    • French has tacos?pango
    • "Le tacos français".
      It's an abomination that needs to be killed with fire.      Continuity
    • Calm your tits.palimpsest
    • Hey. You calm down, champ.Continuity
    • If you can't live with yourself because some peeps like riding with the top off that's on you, chief!palimpsest
    • its that donald jay there pointing ?neverscared
    • And even if we can have both, as is the case the case with anything else.
      On their own isn't atheism more valid/rational than anti-theism?      palimpsest
    • I think both have equal merit, but hey, fill yer boots, slick.Continuity
    • angry-grandpa dot gifpalimpsest
    • he is the taco president after allneverscared
    • neverscared, always on point.palimpsest
    • god always finds a loopholeneverscared
    • Which god? Please clarify.monospaced
    • the god you see when you're balls-deep in some oiled up femboy and the inflatable choke collar starts to make the room spin. that god.face_melter
    • but i frogot you only have sex in the missionary position for the purposes of procreation, so such wild and thrilling concepts are alien to you.face_melter
    • zeus or trump ...neverscared
    • Genesis 17:11palimpsest
    • aka tom or jerry..neverscared
    • the operation of pure chanceneverscared
    • Get a hold of yourself.palimpsest
    • exactly... thats the only point that counts...or let loose and fly...neverscared
    • Notice how all of these words are defined in relation to theism, implying that belief in god is the normal default view. We need a new term that doesn't haveyuekit
    • this baggage associated with it and isn't stuck in the religion thought prison.yuekit
    • I think the word you're reaching for, yuekit, is 'humanist'.Continuity
    • I don't think it's hard to understand why theism has been the norm. We don't need a new word for atheism since it comes from an opposition to the theism.palimpsest
    • No need for newspeak.
      Atheism as A word properly embodies what it means.      palimpsest
    • If those kids could read they'd be very upset.palimpsest
    • I would argue that humanism, unknowingly, has a theist view.palimpsest
    • Because it is anthropocentric and teleological.palimpsest
    • humanist is a totaly low life... because it denies animals the proper status....neverscared
    • thats why the meateaters are such scumbags ...they cant come up with the proper respect for life in general besides human... theism or not....neverscared
    • Thou shalt not kill.... jesus.. god was so kool when he came up with the 10.commands...neverscared
    • "We don't need a new word for atheism since it comes from an opposition to the theism."
      Imagine if we were calling democracy amonarchy. Wouldn't that be kind      yuekit
    • of silly? Not believing in some all-powerful "god" that created the universe is just normal, it's not in opposition to anything.yuekit
    • False equivalence, yuekit. One is a political system, the other is a belief system.Continuity
    • You can not "believe" in democracy or monarchy all you want, if it makes you happy, but it won't stop either from actually existing.Continuity
    • Unlike the mythologies associated with belief systems.Continuity
    • difference that makes no difference in the end.... the power falls if u fail to believe in it , in politics or religion.neverscared
    • @Continuity With all due respect I don't think that distinction is relevant to what I was talking about. The point is, it's lame to define something only inyuekit
    • opposition to something else -- you're already essentially ceding the argument at that point without realizing it.yuekit
    • Words don't exist, why even use them?palimpsest
    • Also not convinced "humanist" is the best word. More like materialist or naturalist.yuekit
    • Nature doesn't exist.
      Descola      palimpsest
    • But those aren't completely accurate either. So sadly we don't even have the words to describe our beliefs, because of the theist influence on society.yuekit
    • Why, exactly, is it lame to define someone only in opposition to something else? Those sorts of linguistic constructions have had haterial benefits ...Continuity
    • ... throughout history.
      Anti-slavery/abolish... in the US?
      Anti-monarchists/rep... in France
      Anti-fascists in the 20th/21st century?
      All good stuff.      Continuity
    • *materialContinuity
    • Haterial...exactly. There's nothing wrong with defining yourself in opposition to something if your main goal is to "hate" on or oppose that thing. But ityuekit
    • sets up a debate that's all about whether that thing is good or not. If you're talking about something as basic as our understanding of reality,yuekit
    • shouldn't we be putting forward a positive view of what we believe?yuekit
    • In fact framing it in this way makes you think about the question more, instead of just saying god isn't real and then forgetting about it.yuekit
    • its all wanna make believe...neverscared
    • religion can be comforting and opressive....a state of anti-paranoia where nothing connects to something...neverscared
    • instead of everything connecting to the supernatural...neverscared
    • Atheism isn’t a viewpoint. It’s just not believing a claim, and in my opinion, for very good reason. God belief isn’t default for obvious reasons.monospaced
    • Continuity, your metaphor doesn’t work, because ideologiesmonospaced
    • Like democracy are real things. They don’t require belief to exist.monospaced
    • Sure ideologies exist. Political systems exist. Belief systems exist.Dieties do not. That's where my metaphor is going. Believing in a god won't make it real.Continuity
    • Conversely, not believing in democracy, or monarchy, or whatever won't make any of those go away.Continuity
    • I'm not going to read all these notes, just point out theism ≠ religion.i_monk
    • The pic is the TLDR version of the notes.palimpsest
    • all these suckers believe in trump and his politics..i would like to see where they are if they woulddnt believe in it... u cant have a movement with believie.neverscared
    • God does not play dice,neverscared
    • without believe....neverscared
    • https://m.media-amaz…neverscared
    • so much for believe...neverscared
    • or the lack there of when the french didnt believe their king was groovy enough... and went all in.neverscared
    • thanks obama https://images.pengu…neverscared
    • corporations are the apex of make believe...most godless creatures can agree to thatneverscared
    • The marbles have been lost.palimpsest
    • u lose some u win some.... thats just how the cookie crumblesneverscared
    • A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... never forget.yuekit
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