Russia-Ukraine Invasion

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    I've never understood Ukraine's claim on Crimea, other than they somehow inherited it when the Soviet Union collapsed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi…

    It was held by greeks for thousands of years, then mongols, tartars, ottomans cossacks and finally Russians.

    A survey in May 2013, asked respondents what language they spoke at home:

    82% Russian
    10% Crimean Tatar
    3% Russian and Ukrainian equally
    3% Russian and another language equally
    2% Ukrainian

    Giving up Crimea is a non-starter for Zelensky when it comes to the peace deal so I'm obviously missing something...unless it's to prevent Russian claims on other former lands? Both in Ukraine and former soviet republics?

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    • like you said everyone loved to fight over that piece of real estate for thousands of years. no need for legitimacy.Beeswax
    • One could compare it to Kosovo, it's a very similar situation. And Serbia's claim is equally dubious.Continuity
    • But the problem Zelenskyy is facing isn't just Crimea, but three legitimately-Ukraini... provinces in the east of the country. If he gives up Crimea, it mightContinuity
    • ... weaken his hand for the three _actually_ Ukrainian territories.Continuity
    • And also: any concession on territory feeds the perception Russia is being rewarded for its aggression, and it's not going to make the Baltics, Poland, or someContinuity
    • ... Balkan countries in the potential future line of fire very happy.Continuity
    • Further: it gives Russia 100% acess to the Med if the get Crimea. Ask especially Greece, Cyprus, and Malta how they feel about that possibility.Continuity
    • Yeah continuity, that seems like the most plausible explanation. Ideally Russia takes crimea and withdraws from the three other provinces... but good luck :(_niko
    • This is unfortunately so, at least until someone in the US has a sudden, real revelation about Putin's trustworthiness.Continuity
    • What do you mean you don't understand their claim on it? From international legal perspective it is part of Ukraine.yuekit
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