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PC laptops are just so ugly. Whenever I see people with ThinkPads or HP's/ Dell's I feel sorry for them to not have a MacBook Pro/ Air.
- mac = slow, overpriced, OS for non tech savvy, but hey it's pretty.YakuZoku
- laptops as a whole are kinda shitty to work with, 1 maybe 2 monitors lolYakuZoku
- Mac slow? Have you been on it since the Arm based SoC M1 launch?NBQ00
- how fast are those compared to a similar priced custom built PC? yeah, that's what I thought.YakuZoku
- I was all about mac till i got into building VR environments, 12 hour renders vs 15 minutes.YakuZoku
- pre-built PC's are kinda shitty and marked up though, I've been back to building my own for like 8 years nowYakuZoku
- If I found myself in the heavy file rendering world again I'd def jump to a PC... I'm mac-based simply because 99% of my clients / agencies arePonyBoy
- Does your racism/arrogance have no boundaries. You literally want everyone to be like you?Ianbolton
- You know, you can rent render farms in the clouds™********
- And yes, the M generation Macs are way better than any PC at the same cash. Try to build a custom Dell or HP at the same price as a Studio********
- Dell? HP? that is shit mang! render farms? pay for someone else to use their system when you can build your own? bruhYakuZoku
- bad advice man.YakuZoku
- https://i.imgflip.co…YakuZoku
- if you bothered to actually read what i posted "pre-built PC's are kinda shitty and marked up" Dell & HP falls into that category bruhYakuZoku
- still cracking up about "render farms"
get a brain moranYakuZoku - sometimes I think you post bad info here just to sabotage other designersYakuZoku
- Welcome to 2025 https://aws.amazon.c…********
- Precision 7780 Workstation - AI Ready
$6,839.00 64GB 2TB
MB Pro M4 Max 64 2TB $4,599.00
Any more comments?******** - Can you build yourself a custom laptop PC in that money?
And I'm the moron?
Get a grip man******** - And you think I post to "sabotage other designers" LOL I post sources for most of my factual posts, you can check them yourself********
- Btw this was a discussion ABOUT LAPTOPS not custom rigs don't tell me to bother to read********
- Oh and I'm not even an Apple fanboy, I just use the best machine for my jobs
I actually like Sony designs since my first walkman******** - apple better than a PC at the same price, but buy a mac laptop and use a PC in the cloud. got it :)kingsteven
- back to the OP though, everyone has the same mbp and ipad as me and it bothers me find myself oogling nice PC laptops on the train.kingsteven
- lol @ those specs graf, they look like the same specs I built for my daughter's rig for under $1kYakuZoku
- I do check your posts, 80% of them are wrong, you read headlines, post, repeat.YakuZoku
- & LOL @ "my jobs" you don't work man, you spend all your time posting hereYakuZoku
- I still love you and upvote you though, even though you talk out of your ass most of the time.YakuZoku
- What part of LAPTOPS do you not get?********
- As for the rest you said, it's ALL YOU and your opinions man
All the rest of the people here post the same, you just focus more on me for some reason******** - The convo switched from laptops to Mac vs PC, and you're trying to bring it back to laptops, you don't build laptops moron LOLYakuZoku
- Posting as much as you do, you will get more attention, that's just how it worksYakuZoku
- No, you tried to switch to whatever the fuck you thought you had a little experience and I corrected you.
Yes, you can't build laptops, I already said that******** - Anyways have a great Friday night brother, I'm about to eat 4 grams of shrooms right now :pYakuZoku
- So what part of my comments was wrong when I backed up with links and actual prices?
Stick to OP next time, you're not the IT guy around here******** - Good luck at whatever makes you happy
Ciao******** - You corrected me? Lol, I'm pretty sure it's the other way aroundYakuZoku
- And you said I'm always after you? You jumped in on this convo that had nothing to do with youYakuZoku
- You saying a Mac at a certain price point is equal or faster than a PC at the same price point shows how much you actually knowYakuZoku
- But that's your style, we all know that. A know it all ChihuahuaYakuZoku
- I'm still cracking up about render farms, that's like paying Dropbox for personal use instead of buying a hard driveYakuZoku
- graf can't admit he's wrong so he digs a hole in the sidenotes. but a M4 Max MBP (£4k) is comparable performance to RTX4070 pc laptop (£1.5k) for most graphicalkingsteven
- tasks. a mid-level, previous generation, mobile graphics card. a desktop with 4070 is 40% faster than the laptop and a desktop 4090 is 80% faster againkingsteven
- Comparing a Mac laptop (fast af btw) to a custom desktop pc is stupid. One is a sexy efficient portable machine. The other is a big loud mess of cablesmonospaced
- Yeah it might be able to render fast, but it isn’t portable or useful beyond that desk. And pc laptops are clunky compared to them.monospaced
- At entry level, no pc laptops can get close to a Mac. For that he’s right.monospaced
- Shallow as a puddle on a sunny day.Nairn
- No was comparing Mac laptop to any PC laptop and Mac will be better chill********
- the discussion was about laptops********
- So you can stick your PC rig up your ass Moldy and still can't come up with a decent price for anything like a Mac laptop********
- thank you monospaced, you know your shit********
- and still yes render farms in the clouds are the main go to for most studios that do ads and whatever, who tf builds custom rigs over a week on a tight deadline********
- *you're.Nairn
- Soz. Couldn't help myself.Nairn
- Sure Nairn, np bro, but curious, do you render on a Mac or PC laptop? :))********
- know your shit is know your shit********
- So Moldy do you render your AI videos on your custom rig or do you prompt in the sky a render farm to give a piece of video to download and edit?********
- Do you even own a M series laptop bro? Cope harder********
- Go buy a M series Mac laptop then come back and comment here********
- So another thing if you push PC rig vs. Mac********
- To run R1 model you need 2x Mac studios 512GB for 1TB or RAM? That's $30K********
- To run the same model on nvidia you need 16 x nvidia A100s 80GB $24,879.00 on amazon********
- Specs for R1 https://apxml.com/po…********
- Again, you're not the IT guy around here, go buy a M series laptop and stfu about your PC rigs********
- bringing R1 in to this is an extra layer of silliness because you can run full R1 on a $2k CPU only PC rig at 4 t/s which is fast enough for personal usekingsteven
- for context a dual m4 rig is 15x the price and 5x the tokens/s, a H200 rig is 100x the price and and run at 1000x the tokens/s.kingsteven
- The full model? Really? Can you share the specs on that?********
- The point of mentioning R1 was that you can run it fast and locally and cheaply than PC with nvidia specialized cards********
- https://digitalspace…kingsteven
- there are also people running the full model accelerated with NVIDIA cards, it's just slower than doing it with CPU only (for now)kingsteven
- only rumours for now but good chance there will be consumer rigs within months which will put an end to this newfound apple superiority (at one really specifickingsteven
- unfeasibly expensive thing). I am an apple fan, love my MBP, osx and how efficient it is but i'd put my 5 yr old PC with 4070Ti up against any M4kingsteven
- 99% of PCs are shitboxes but the idea of Macs being able to outperform a comparably priced PC (laptop or otherwise) is just wrong.kingsteven
- one example, i produce motion graphics in 4k on my pc (much quicker on PC), i use prores because i need an alpha channel (quicker to decode on Mac)kingsteven
- this is where I start to think an m4 would be to my advantage but no, at least for me there is stream footage which needs upscaled, encoded. 1 million littlekingsteven
- things which require, or will be twice as fast with NVIDIA hardware acceleration (and not in the cloud). If I ever do require 8 simultaneous 8k feeds or whatevekingsteven
- r apple claims the m4 pros can handle, or i require more single core CPU power (why I use my mbp for music) or fast CPU memory then I'll pray for an m4kingsteven
- conclusion: PC laptops are ugly AF, except the ones that blatantly rip off Apple's design leadmonospaced
- @king, an entry level MacBook outperforms pretty much any PC laptop at the same price. I don't know why you think this is wrong.monospaced
- Look at the benchmarks. In 3D Mark benchmarks a 10 core M4 (£1199 Air - £1999 14" MBP) ranks below £500 3050Ti PC laptops...kingsteven
- The Mac will undoubtedly be a much better all rounder, but for anything requiring graphics acceleration, no.kingsteven
- also, i think a lot of PC laptops look cool as fuck and don't take design cues from apple. Its just 99% of the time you see one it probably cost £300kingsteven
- Whenever I see thinkpads out in the wild I see them as the evo x of the laptop world. I’m a Mac guy through and through but there’s something about thinkpads._niko
- It's a shame Sony stopped making laptops. I had a doozie Sony 15 years ago. Thinkpads are, to me, a bit like high-end Sony Walkmans from the 80s, aesthetically.Nairn