America is Fucked
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Carlson’s Text That Alarmed Fox Leaders
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/…
Turns out his firing wasn't a condition of the settlement with Dominion but had more to do with racist texts Carlson had sent that were going to come up in the trial.
I know people will try to come up with creative interpretations of this but at some point you have to call a spade a spade...Tucker Carlson most likely did hold white nationalist leaning views.
The themes were constantly there in his show (Great Replacement Theory etc), his lead writer was fired for pulling content from far-right forums, he casually makes a comment like this suggesting he views the world in racial terms.
The fact that a crypto-white nationalist became the most popular cable news show in America is a troubling detail that you can guarantee the US news media won't talk about much.
- His entire worldview was the threatening of his white america. Of course he’s a racist to the deepest core.monospaced
- Yeah the racist overtones were obvious but there’s also a specific ideological worldview white nationalists tend to hold...yuekit
- They view everything in zero sum racial terms but also tend to be more critical than most conservatives of big business, skeptical of US foreign policy (whileyuekit
- also idealizing dictators like Putin and hyperconcerned about the white race being “replaced” by immigrants...yuekit
- All of which are themes pushed by Carlson on his show. The same things some clueless people on the left praised him for (wow he’s willing to criticizeyuekit
- corporations sometimes) you can also get from David Duke. So he was basically delivering a soft version of white nationalism, distinct from youryuekit
- average tier right wing news host, and not only did this not bother many Americans, they liked what they were hearing.yuekit
- yup I knowmonospaced
- ironic to discuss this on the eve of removing title 42. Democrats giving asylum to immigrants who voted in authoritarian socialist gov'ts in their home country.hotroddy
- Dem's basically admmited immigrants easy votes to keep themselves re-elected. All Dem's need to do is teach them to become victims.hotroddy
- I just don't buy this kind of racial essentialism. If Russia was in South America you'd be using that as evidence.yuekit
- It's about as white as you can get (actually Belarus officially whitest country in the world) and they supported both Marxism + whatever Putin's shit system is.yuekit
- Should we ban Slavic immigrants? Clearly they have authoritarian tendencies right? You can make these generalizations about anyone.yuekit
- Marxism is about class and south american Marxism is one step more class + race (meaning the reason ur in the lower class is because of race).hotroddy
- it's original Marxism on steroids because the ideology is tied to the color of your skin instead of just class.hotroddy
- I'm not saying that immigrants have authoritarian tendencies. That's counter to what they are fleeing from.hotroddy
- immigrants are hard-working people and are stoked to be in the USA. It's 2-3 generations that come after that I wonder about.hotroddy
- They are literally being taught to hate the country bc they are people of colorhotroddy
- OK so then condemn the ideology...I agree that what happened to Venezuela is a crime against humanity. But sometimes your comments sound like Stefan Molyneux,yuekit
- not sure if you know who that is but he pushes the view that some groups of people are naturally inclined towards authoritarianism and collectivism.yuekit
- And this leaves out that Marxism was invented by Europeans and then promoted for decades by the USSR. Or situations like North Korea and South Korea...yuekit
- Where you have two similar groups of people believing in totally different things. Ultimately I think everyone can head down this path of authoritarianism,yuekit
- that's what the popularity of someone like Tucker Carlson shows.yuekit
- *everyone = anyoneyuekit
- Don't know him but that's not way I'm saying.hotroddy
- Any race is naturally inclined towards authoritarianism and collectivism given the right conditions. It's all over the world at any point in history.hotroddy
- Look no further about how the Germans incorrectly regarded the Jews » A minority class perceived as an 'oppressing force' and the cause to all their problems.hotroddy
- shit goes wrong quickly if you are part of the 'minority' that is perceived as the 'oppressor'. I think that's what the right is afraid of & trying to preventhotroddy
- it won't happen in our lifetime but farmers will be forced to sell their land.hotroddy
- Not in the name of 'equity' but in the name of the environment like they're currently doing to the Dutch farmershotroddy
- a municipal golf course here in LA was going to be taken over by the city to build 'low income housing' and it reminded me of what chavez did in Venezuela.hotroddy
- The proposal was shot down once golfers complained and recognized it as the most diverse/ethnic golf course in USAhotroddy
- OK but doesn't LA maybe need some low income housing?yuekit
- yeah, and they shut the proposal down once city realized the golfers weren't stereotypical rich white maleshotroddy
- btw the average low-income unit costs the city $800,000 to make. bureaucratic corruption at its finest.hotroddy
- Right but these are complex structural problems...right wing populism or fascism lite isn’t going to solve them.yuekit
- If GOP wants to win in California again they need to drop the crazy...wasn’t the last guy they nominated some radio host who beat his wife or something lolyuekit
- Crazy is what we need. We need a pinochet or a Bukele to clean up the streets. El Salvadorians are leaving LA and moving back to el salvador!hotroddy
- correction: el Salvadorians are still migrating here but they are retiring in el Salvador.hotroddy
- They got you fighting a culture war to stop you fighting a class warwhatthefunk
- if you truly want to move up a class, the opportunity to do it is higher in the USA than in Canada or Europe.hotroddy
- Granted, you may not get free healthcare but that ship has sailed. Too many freeloaders in the USA.hotroddy
- So you need a right-wing demagogue to counter the threat of left-wing demagogues? Yeah that'll work, I don't see any possible issues there...yuekit
- remind me again, what part of the right-wing demagoguery is that you don't like?hotroddy
- Haha what kind of question is this hotroddy. Vladimir Putin is an example of a right-wing demagogue, do you think that led to good things for Russia?yuekit
- Inherent in the definition of demagogue is that you don't solve the real problems, you mislead people with propaganda or scapegoating some group of people.yuekit
- i'll worry about Putin when 700k+ russians line up on southern border. Russians have a long history of authoritarian vs generational Americans = zerohotroddy
- A Latino who calls himself part of a "right wing death squad" just did a mass shooting in Texas...yuekit
- https://twitter.com/…yuekit
- Isn't right wing death squad a reference to Pinochet?yuekit
- why is above news and this one isn;t? https://www.kktv.com…hotroddy
- sure, it's news but only local news.hotroddy
- Well the first guy killed a lot more people for one thing. Also the media tends to focus on mass shooters.yuekit
- A disproportionate number of them seem to be right-wing extremists. Would you at least admit there's a problem there?yuekit
- There was a black mass shooter at one point who killed a bunch of cops and the media didn't shy away from reporting it.yuekit
- Sorry for the link but too tired to argue my own points :) https://www.washingt…hotroddy
- the guy did the very same thing this latinx white supremacist did.hotroddy
- oh wait are we talking about the running over the latinos on the sidewalk? bc that one isn't getting the same covarage as the white supremacist latinx.hotroddy
- could it be because this OTHER latinx isn't a white supremacist? https://www.dailymai…hotroddy
- Whatever, comparing body counts is pointless and distasteful. Every mass murderer should be condemned.yuekit
- What I was getting at is you seem to try to portray the nationalist right as representing law and order. And that falls flat when they're committing coups andyuekit
- pushing idiotic conspiracy theories, even carrying out mass shootings themselves.yuekit