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    What science tells us about why conspiracy theorists believe what they do

    https://protagonistfuture.substa…

    • None of us are lily white.zardoz
    • From the first paper I picked from your infographic by Cichocka...zardoz
    • ."conspiracy theories are not always wrong (e.g., the Watergate scandal)"zardoz
    • Oh yeah definitely we can all fall for these same mistakes. But it's good to be conscious of what they areyuekit
    • With conspiracy theorists you see them drawing weird conclusions that don't make sense, and they don't seem to be aware of this.yuekit
    • These are really two different things, conspiracies which of course exist and conspiracy theories, which describes a certain type of thinking.yuekit
    • Like in the case of Watergate, the reporters didn't sit around making up some elaborate nonsensical theories, they just went and found out what happened.yuekit
    • We only need one out of a million for doubt to set inIanbolton
    • Yes, it's good to be mindful of fallacious reasoning. Like I said, none of us are lily whitezardoz
    • I see plenty of ad homs, poisoning the well etc from the 'other side'.zardoz
    • @yuekit, The Watergate scandal is a bad example for you. The journalists found an anomaly in the legal representation of the burglars. This then gave them...Morning_star
    • ...enough suspicion to question the governments official story. They then questioned and probed and pieced together facts creating an alternative and true...Morning_star
    • ...version of what happened. They had to speculate about the truth before finding the facts that went against the government story.Morning_star
    • Do you really not recognize what a conspiracy theory and how it's different from just trying to conduct an investigation or speculate about something?yuekit
    • This is one of those cases where the WIkipedia definition is pretty good actually..
      https://en.wikipedia…
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    • In particular "Conspiracy theories are generally designed to resist falsification and are reinforced by circular reasoning: both evidence against the conspiracyyuekit
    • and absence of evidence for it are misinterpreted as evidence of its truth, whereby the conspiracy becomes a matter of faith rather than something that can beyuekit
    • proven or disproven" ...is absolutely true based on my experience talking to conspiracy theorists.yuekit

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