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The idea that an alternative question lead forum of experts and thinkers from business, culture, and politics isn’t bad. There are broad criticisms of the WEF and it’s annual proposed solutions. Particularly this years ‘unfounded’ and ‘alarmist’ solutions for climate change. It fails to adequately address the impacts of climate change solutions on the poor. The WEF is also facing further criticism for it’s focus on ESG initiatives particularly the negative effect on inflation due to governments spending on social programmes, subsidies and renewable energy.
Philanthropists like Bill Gates have also expressed concern for the poor and developing countries because of their inability to break away from carbon negative energy sources due to cost. His particular solution is to invest heavily in cleaning up and innovating short term solutions for electricity grids and delivery of liquid fuels. This would bring an interim positive effect on climate change and give us the room to discover, innovate and produce viable long-term solutions. This forum would be a good alternative to the WEF and a great place to discuss and discover answers to the inherent problems a global problem such as Climate Change contains, as a ‘one size’ solution will not fit all.
I have my doubts that JP will be able to pull this off, I tend to agree with Yuekit in that he is too much of a polarising figure to create something that is a true alternative to the WEF. People will tend to see this as another of JPs personal crusades rather than a potential alternative platform for finding solutions to global issues. From what I have seen and heard JPs motivation is for good. Whether it’s personal, community, country or global I think he is genuinely striving to improve lives. However, his ability to attract huge audiences is both a strength and weakness in this situation.
- Thanks : )palimpsest
- So it's a shitty idea, yeah?palimpsest
- No, the idea is sound but the execution will fail. Anyway, what did Leary say?Morning_star
- https://www.youtube.…palimpsest
- He hasn't executed it yet, if you think the execution will fail you must not think highly of the idea.palimpsest
- @Morning_star Petersen should hire you as his PR writer, the explanations you give are always much more reasonable sounding :)yuekit
- But then go back and look at the source material and he's saying all these nutty things. For instance dabbling in climate denial and so on.yuekit
- Trading one particular set of elites for another.IRNlun6
- In my experience it's climate scientists who were always the most vocal in demanding action on climate change, with government and businessyuekit
- only slowly and reluctantly going along with it. Most scientists don't see the current climate policies as alarmist, if anything it's too little too late.yuekit
- @palimpsest The execution will fail because JP is the figurehead. Most people won't be able get over that, however credible it is.Morning_star
- Fair enough.palimpsest
- Also...this Leary https://youtu.be/28j…Morning_star
- @yuekit...An observation: JP is prone to going on for hours, out of context quotes can and do make him sound like a lunatic. This bytesize approach to...Morning_star
- ..consuming his opinion doesn't reflect accurately the totality of his ideas. Coupled with the mostly negative journalistic responses don't do him any favours.Morning_star
- @yuekit...Just to clarify the 'alarmist' label was only focussed on the WEF annual statement, not a general accusationMorning_star
- Yes but the basic premise that the WEF is pushing unfounded environmental policies that go too far...I just don't think this is true.yuekit
- I also don't think they are imposing "one size fits all" policies. In reality this is a very difficult problem people are trying to solve.yuekit
- The criticisms i site are valid and consistent with climate scientists. You've hit the nail on the head because it is a very difficult problem to solve and...Morning_star
- ...one that can't be solved by businessmen chatting for a week in Switzerland.Morning_star
- It's almost trolling for Peterson to suggest that he has the answers. The irony is if some alternative group to the WEF actually made a serious attempt at this,yuekit
- they'd probably quickly discover that most of their original criticisms were misguided and made from 10,000 foot vantage point.yuekit
- Maybe an alternative 'something' is better than nothing. Who knows? If it does happen the test will be the quality of it's output.Morning_star
- Except that alternative will fail and we're back to square one.palimpsest