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  • zardoz0

    *sound of penny dropping*

    Dilbert guy gets it

    • Lots of relatives got the jag, so it doesnt *feel* like any kind of victory.zardoz
    • the but here is that they got it in some form and survived without any long term issues.
      that's a huge but.
      sted
    • This guy's premise is incorrect. Anti-vaxxers are NOT “winners” because the purpose of vaccines is NOT to protect the recipient but to suppress the spread...ptrdo
    • ...It takes any human a few weeks to figure out COVID and eliminate it. Unvaxxed people are infectious most of that time, spreading to a half-dozen others...ptrdo
    • ...But vaxxed people have a prebuilt defense, which quickens the immune response, shortening the course of illness and thereby the potential for infectiousness...ptrdo
    • ...An unvaxxed person who spreads COVID to 6, who each spread to 6 = 36, then they each spread to 6 more = 216 x 6 = 1296, on and on...ptrdo
    • ...But a vaxxed person may spread COVID to only 3, who each spread to 3 = 9, then they each spread to 3 more = 27 x 3 = 81, on and on. MUCH fewer...ptrdo
    • ...All this is not to mention that so-called “natural” immunity is limited to ONLY the particular strain encountered and is commensurate to degree of infection...ptrdo
    • ...Vaccines are an abstraction that anticipates mutation and forces a body to pay attention rather than how a body barely takes note of an asymptomatic infection...ptrdo
    • ...It's math, really. The quicker people get well, the less virus they'll spread, and the less virus, the fewer infected—You can't catch what's not going around...ptrdo
    • ...Watch this video instead. Then note how Omicron is R₀≈9.5, which is how it spread from Botswana to the world in a matter of weeks. https://youtu.be/PAC…ptrdo
    • ...Vaccines can slow that down. So-called “natural” immunity cannot. When the unvaxxed get the next strain, their immunity is too late—they've already spread it.ptrdo
    • ...Flu is R₀ ≈1.5, Common cold is R₀ ≈3, Omicron is R₀ ≈9.5 (3x as infectious as a cold, 6x the flu).

      https://en.wikipedia…
      ptrdo
    • The life we are enjoying today, one where it's almost as if COVID never existed is the direct benefit of the vaccine.ShenanigansTV
    • "they are the winners
      (but ignore those who died)
      robotinc
    • https://health.cleve…Elwin74
    • Next week: Garfield comes out as an anti-vaxxeryuekit
    • I dunno. Everyone I know had a fuck all time with it. Vax or no vax. In families, one person would go down the others drinking soda on the deck. Weird deal.dibec
    • @dibec yeah, 100% agree. some shake it off with a temporary loss of smell and taste and a little unusual breathing, others get fucked 100%, some age 20 in 2ysted
    • @dibec Yes, everybody deals with COVID differently, but what you can't know is how a vaxxed person would have fared if they were not vaxxed...ptrdo
    • ...If a vaxxed person still got COVID and got it bad, then it's certain that they would have been even sicker had they not been vaccinated. But you won't know...ptrdo
    • ...Also, if an unvaxxed person gets COVID and barely feels sick, they CAN still spread it. But if they were vaxxed, they would be infectious for a shorter period.ptrdo

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