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@Chimp you're such an expert, what does 'excess deaths' means?
I'm not asking about excess mortality.- definition, history, factors, how is it measured, references, and link some academic research, please.sted
- the excess deaths could be coming from the fact that for 1.5 years nobody when to hospital for check ups, operations were delayed etc etc...shapesalad
- From the UK ONS https://www.ons.gov.…Morning_star
- those are the factors for excess mortality like the fact that we all lived in a much more sterile environment which is so say not good for the immune system.sted
- or like the less contact with the environment, muscle degradation, and psychological problems arising from isolationsted
- That link doesn't work, sorry.Morning_star
- Here you go tinyurl.com/4v2ckhmfMorning_star
- @Morning_star 404. you can find links that use this term for the average citizen. this makes it distinguishable at what level we are talking about the subjectsted
- or https://tinyurl.com/…
Christ i'm shit at the internets.Morning_star - see the wording at the definition:
"The term excess deaths in this article" _in this article_ :)sted - Wasn't disagreeing with you, just supplying some government stats.Morning_star
- nah all good, we know internets :D its just most of these articles are made for the public.sted
- and it is defined differently everywhere because it is not an exact concept.sted
- "Lies, damn lies and statistics" ;)Morning_star
- In the USA excess deaths = difference between the expected number (based on average of previous years) and actual number.yuekit
- https://www.cdc.gov/…yuekit
- ^ But what you can see is that the spikes in excess deaths happen at the same time as COVID outbreaks.yuekit
- Before anyone had ever taken the vaccine in mid 2020, there was a spike in excess deaths.yuekit
- What the fuck is up with California? even without Covid deaths.Morning_star
- aye reading limitations in that article should be essential to everybody who is interested in this. dec 14 global:
https://www.nature.c…sted - ^ 404 bud ;)Morning_star
- This is also interesting, deaths from heart disease among young people.
https://twitter.com/…yuekit - It did go up during the pandemic but the increase started in early 2020, not when the vaccine was rolled out.yuekit
- In fact deaths from heart disease among people under 40 plateaued and then declined after the vaccine was introduced.yuekit
- ahahha the internets doesn't want that either :D here is it: https://tinyurl.com/…sted
- There was a 19% increase in heart problems for 45 to 49 year olds in 2021. I wouldn’t call that a plateau.Chimp
- If you're going to say something is true, it needs to be consistent with all the evidence. You don't prove something by picking out isolated stats and anecdotesyuekit
- So if the vaccines caused heart disease deaths among young people, why did heart disease deaths go down after the vaccines were rolled out?yuekit
- Why do counties in the USA that have a lower vaccination rate have more excess deaths?yuekit