Dall-E, Midjourney, Stable Diffusion (etc) - who's playing, and with which?
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The QBN machine. I comped that together from multiple 1024 pixel squares. trying to make some mechanical letters. it's still a strange process, I actually put more detail in the background of this one, but it interfered with the letters a bit more than other ones.
This is fairly close to how I'd paint it on a wall and usually if I was to draw this as a line drawing it would take me about 8 hours.
As a reference for painting it has a lot of info and really nice tonal values.
I've been sending these to other painters to try to get them to try it, but middle aged graffiti guys are not really the target audience. I'd like to think it would improve the concepts of what people would paint, but in my experience, just trying to get a 50 year old men to undercoat their wall properly is nearly impossible without a lot of moaning.
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- you could impress a toy with this, a middle aged graffiti guy knows that it's a juvenile concept and kinda hard to justify the method with it :)sted
- I dunno graff lettering is inherently more cohesive...the dimensions and layerung logic is sorted well before in sketches before getting to the wall stage.jonny_quest_lives
- I guess if I squint It works. In 3 months ai will have it all sorted.jonny_quest_lives
- https://bsciwp.s3.am…jonny_quest_lives
- A toy wouldn't even think of doing something like this. Believe me, the city where I live is filled with horror. Not all graffiti lettering is the same.PhanLo
- Say for instance this, https://i.imgur.com/… it's simplified, but I can draw good letters so I would use that as a base to make a nice piece.PhanLo
- Something like this https://i.imgur.com/…PhanLo
- @Johnny Quest that Fuse piece created some semi modern MSK style shapes https://i.imgur.com/… Must be an early piece, his style is a lot crisper now.PhanLo
- You can see potential here though?PhanLo
- i do see the potential just not sure how AI bridges the gap with image training alone as graf artists solvejonny_quest_lives
- the logic of layering elements at the sketch phase and am not sure AI can learn that on image scraping alonejonny_quest_lives
- as for the fuse piece i largely reference the older AWR crew stuff work as they were the heavy hitters in LA when i was growing upjonny_quest_lives
- graf in it's purest form definitely seems AI proof. kind like this shizjonny_quest_lives
- https://onezero.medi…jonny_quest_lives
- letterforms designed to be unteachablejonny_quest_lives
- Occasionally the Ai can do graffiti letters, but you’re right, I don’t think it can do a traditional wildstyle piece, but that’s not what I’m trying to do.PhanLo
- I went to the local hall of fame yesterday just to see what was there and most of it was like set graffiti from a film where the set painters only had Beat...PhanLo
- ...Street for reference. I’m unsure how graffiti has got so bad, considering the whole history is available for consumption online.PhanLo
- Always thought the AWR/MSK style were so giant, like stretched limo pieces. I’m a bit more Fiat Punto in scale. I like physicality of their letteringPhanLo
- Full body movement in the shapes. Each letter the size of a human stretching as far as they can in every directionPhanLo
- i do like the fills on letterforms in euro graf it seems there's more time for bubbles stars and stencils than in LAjonny_quest_lives
- https://www.braskart…jonny_quest_lives
- LA graff is pretty gothic, it took a long time for their letters to get good compared with the NY stuff. Also a lot of bad 3d stuff in the 90'sPhanLo