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    Junior coder asking HR for a raise, the discussion quickly moves to some business details what he shouldn't know. Like what money others receive and that some have the option to get a percentage from the projects revenues. A PM told him that there was revenue sharing in the first 2 years, the people who moved with the company got a fat raise in exchange for a 3y contract. HR is trying to explain that it isn't wise to compare his money/performance and compensation options to the people who work here from the beginning or the ones currently in leading roles. A really disturbing detail comes up in the form of an hourly rate for a specific client where he is working on-site 16 hours every week on a software integration. HR makes clear that any further action regarding his compensation requires consulting management and that there will be a bonus in a few days. Both sides agree to return to the subject at the beginning of next year. The conversation ends with mutual agreement and HR writes a summary of the conversation.

    On Sunday an email is sent into my mailbox at 4:23AM, gets opened hours later. I just read the name and the subject and without knowing who the person is, a quiet FUCK leaves my mouth :) A colleague of ours would like to break up our mutual agreement. While scrolling down in the email thinking that I'm not going to read this now my eye stops on a name. It's one of our clients contact name and he knows what money they pay and not just why but also how :))) He kindly offers that he could do the same he just wants the 75% of the money for the job and we CAN KEEP the client. At this part I had to open up a notepad and start writing a reply, asking how the 25% would finance the 90net pay, liability insurance, taxes and book keeping on the project while making profit. After about three paragraphs in complete red headed rage style producing nothing but an awful lot of unnecessary details and education it hits me:
    Why the hell I care about this? This is exactly why there are people whose job is to make sure everybody is happy and gets what they want for the work they do.

    I found the summary made by HR, added a note that both the coder and the PM should get a warning for approaching the client in this form and sharing inaccurate information.

    Why does it worth stressing on the salaries of your colleagues, or on what percentage of the money you received of the money you actually made for the place that gives you work? If you don't know how, you can always ask how to do it better and make yourself worthy for that money, or go start a company, get the clients, make the resources work, and see how you can pay people.

    • Yeah, never stress out about how much or little your co-workers make in comparison to you. Better as you say, to focus on your own worth and value offered.shapesalad

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