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    • Both the CCP and NK seem to have boners for artillery, whilst the US seems to have one for tanks and planes.Continuity
    • CCP and NK can't occupy shit, their logistics - just like Russia's - are a joke. Huge numbers, zero impact.

      While the US are all about mobility      grafician
    • Well, CCP (as far as I know) only want to occupy TW, which is a much smaller territory than, say, UA. So occupying it might not be so much of a challenge.Continuity
    • As for NK's capbilities, I don't know enough to speculate or be an armchair strategist. And, again, seems to me they only want to have a go at SK ...Continuity
    • ... though I imagine that wouldn't go well for them, all things considered. *Unless* the CCP is trying to annex TW, and the West is too busy trying to stop thatContinuity
    • Then NK would probably have an easier time of it.Continuity
    • Considering all this, investing so much in your military when nobody really wants to occupy you or you don't occupy others is nuts but heygrafician
    • But remember Russia "modernised" its military for 2 decades and we've seen how "advanced" they are so I guess Chyna and NK won't be far behind only to save facegrafician
    • re: Taiwan, that's impossible to occupy without failure. Instant failure!grafician
    • Russia's got more skin in the military build-up game, however. For them, everything post-USSR has been about revanchism against Nato and its allies.Continuity
    • China didn't go through that kind of humiliation and loss of territory. They even gained some, after HK was tranferred to them from the UK.Continuity
    • Nonetheless: I'd actually still be more worried about the CCP's military capabilities than of Russia's. It's pretty clear that if it came down to it,Continuity
    • Nato would ass-fuck Russia dry in a conventional shooting war. Versus the CCP, it's hard to say.Continuity
    • NATO was created to counter Russia mostly, in Europe. I see no point in having NATO <> Chyna or NK militarilygrafician
    • That's what it would come down to, though, should the CCP try to annex TW. The US has already made it clear they'd intervene, and I guess at least *some*Continuity
    • ... Nato countries would probably join in. Also, Russia v CCP AFs: I'm guessing the CCP's forces are *way* more disciplined than RUS's, on top of being ...Continuity
    • ... far more numerous. That really changes any calculus when we're talkiing about the chances of invasion successes.Continuity
    • But, since the CCP hasn't really battled-tested their forces in RU- or even US-style overseas 'adventures', everything I'm saying is pure guess and speculation.Continuity
    • Only NATO countries with a navy anyway

      But there's no point on getting Taiwan if they blow up the semis fabs so...      grafician
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