Russia-Ukraine Invasion
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- yuekit2
It's amazing how over half a year in there's still no good explanation for why the war happened.
If it was a war against NATO it's a miserable failure given that two more countries joined NATO. The idea of "fighting the Nazis" was always laughable and now undermined even more after Putin exchanged the captured Azov battalion fighters for his friend in a prisoner swap.
Latest version seems to be Putin framing the war as an ideological struggle against the West, but instead of Marxism it's a sub-Fox News far-right conspiracy theorist worldview.
The only justification that really makes sense is to seize land and resources from Ukraine. But even then it's not clear that whatever Russia gained would be worth the cost of destroying ties with Europe and living under sanctions.
- When you only have yes men telling you how great your army is and that entire Ukraine will be in your hands within 2-3 days then that's what happens.NBQ00
- No good explanation? Check out Peter Zeihan on YT. Basically Demographics = this the last chance, ageing + declining population...shapesalad
- ..economcs, want that direct route into west. Political - Putin needs something to keep Russia together, else it fractions.shapesalad
- Add to the mix east vs west ideology, soviet dreams, and Putin tired of being paid in $ for his oil/gas, and having it devalued by the FED.shapesalad
- Regarding population, if Putin tried this in 7 years time, there's be less fighting aged men, in 15 years even less. It was now or never. Now they failed andshapesalad
- are drafting prisoners and retired military and anyone else, regardless of skill or ability.shapesalad
- Should say, sea route into west for shipping. If they had Ukraine as part of Russia it's a massive economic win.shapesalad
- Don't forget Russia is not one unified country, it's massive, people look chinese at one end, white at other. It's only ever been held together by strongmen.shapesalad
- It’s barely a country in any sense. A piranha state run by Soviet era mafiosos, a true kleptocracy. Which is a shame, there is so much potential for Russians_niko