Russia-Ukraine Invasion

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    I'm curious to know if either the Ukrainians or western intelligence saw this mobilisation coming in the last however long this war's been going on.

    If yes, what's the plan, here?

    If not, why not?

    And, at what point will Nato have to get directly involved? Because, frankly, I suspect the time will actually come when Nato joining the fight on the ground will have to happen.

    Because I'm not confident Ukraine can both defend itself and take back all of its territory (including Crimea) in the face of 300k more Ruskies, and Western matériel only coming in drips and trickles.

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    • Also: let's not rule out him calling up the rest of his reservists, and then instituting full-on mass conscription down the road.Continuity
    • Are 300k people actually going to join the war? I don't think they have the ability to immediately mobilize that many people.yuekit
    • The danger is that Russia stages a fake referendum, claims the Donbas is now Russia and then starts a nuclear war over it.yuekit
    • For now only selling/ supplying weapons is realistic. Unless you want nuclear warNBQ00
    • @yuekit I actually think Russian men would be outright stupid enough to join up in droves.Continuity
    • In any case, they're calling up reservists, and I don't think they have a choice when a call-up happens.Continuity
    • There are stories that soldiers are refusing to fight. Mobilization of the entire population could bring down the government IMO.yuekit
    • Eh, I'm not so sure about that. Russkies are so indoctrinated that they'll swallow anything.Continuity
    • Yeah but Russians are like the pro Putin cell on QBN, lots of tough words but in no way would they ever sacrifice anything for this war :)yuekit
    • It's easy to support something from behind a screen or watching on TV. Like the tankies and far right idiots who spend all day supporting Russia on social mediayuekit
    • how many would ever pick up a gun and be willing to give their lives for Putin?yuekit
    • But by all means if they want to, I say let them do it.yuekit
    • Well, you're not wrong.
      Yeah, let's see how this pans out.      Continuity
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