America is Fucked
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Absolutely...Americans have this idea that guns are the only thing standing between them and a tyrannical government. When in reality during the same time period that gun sales surged to record levels, you had the Patriot Act, indefinite detention, torture, NSA surveillance...meanwhile countries with strict gun control laws had none of these things.
I think it's a good idea to allow some gun ownership, but there's literally no connection between people being armed to the teeth and political freedom. Found this kind of funny...
Top 10 Countries with Highest Gun Ownership (Civilian guns owned per 100 people):
1) United States - 120.5
2) Falkland Islands - 62.1
3) Yemen - 52.8
4) New Caledonia - 42.5
5) Serbia - 39.1 (tie)
6) Montenegro - 39.1 (tie)
7) Uruguay - 34.7 (tie)
8) Canada - 34.7 (tie)
9) Cyprus - 34
10) Finland - 32.4https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Es…
Near the bottom of the list you will find North Korea but also democratic countries with arguably more political freedom than the USA like Taiwan, South Korea and Japan.
- incredible that Taiwan has the real and ever-present threat of China invading at any second, an actual tyrannical government and yet they don't feel the need to_niko
- arm themselves to the teeth and shoot each other in the face every chance they get and or massacre school children in the name of what? idiocy._niko
- I assume that here in Uruguay, it has to be for all the hunting culture and gaucho shit. Same as in Finland and Canada I guess.maquito
- playing devil's advocate here - maybe if the intellectuals of China had guns they wouldn't have been relegated to fleeing 2 taiwan after cultural revolution.hotroddy
- same can be said for Cuba and venezuelahotroddy
- During Cultural Revolution all kinds of crazy things happened...people killed their neighbors, different factions of the army fought each other...it wasn't ayuekit
- top down thing where the government oppressed the population, more like mass chaos.yuekit
- But yeah of course having some guns is probably a good thing...but ever heard of the law of diminishing returns? Americans probably don't need close to threeyuekit
- times the arms of a literal war zone to be a"free"...are they even free today? More than some countries, less than others, but not b/c of guns.yuekit
- interesting. what you describe reminds me of movie 'the purge'. i thought it was top down,hotroddy
- guns or no guns, there will be a civil war. it's only a matter of time. this country is too divided.hotroddy
- That's probably not a completely wrong comparison, there were gangs of students going around smashing stores and beating up whoever they decided was notyuekit
- a good enough Maoist or whatever. They even vandalized the cemetery where Confucius is buried and dug up some of the corpses of ancient Chinese leaders.yuekit
- sounds like every socialist revolution. in venezuela they vandalize graves for a living. we had to dig up my grandmother and cremate her bc of riskhotroddy
- but in V it was students doing the looting. the students saw the writing on the wallhotroddy
- *wasn't the studentshotroddy
- That's terrible but I assume in Venezuela it was criminals right? Cultural Revolution was basically Mao recognizing that his position in the CCP was in dangeryuekit
- so he started this fanatical movement to purge the country. So it was somewhat unique in that Mao was saying, we failed to achieve real socialism, you mustyuekit
- destroy not only capitalism but also impure elements of the Communist Party itself...just not me, those other guys over there.yuekit
- There is a recent book by Chinese historian "The World Turned Upside Down"
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