Russia-Ukraine Invasion
Russia-Ukraine Invasion
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- yuekit4
- Though i used to love Adam Curtis, he's too simple minded for me nowadays. My rejection of his simplistic understanding of the world actually started with thispr2
- ...film.pr2
- I agree to some extent but this clip is interesting b/c it talks about Putin's advisor Vladislav Surkov, the same one who manipulated events in Ukraine.yuekit
- https://i.imgur.com/…yuekit
- https://medium.com/d…yuekit
- I don't think Russia obscured that they had interest in those regions. They could have taken it even before, like they did with Crimea, but they didn't. why?uan
- There was already a Russian military base in Crimea (leased from Ukraine) so it was easier to seize Crimea. Taking over the entire Donbas regionyuekit
- is definitely not easy, as you can see Russia is struggling to achieve that now.yuekit
- So they helped create these "breakaway republics" in Donbas to destabilize Ukraine and serve as staging point for a future war.yuekit
- This is not even controversial if you listen to foreign policy analysts but somehow it never sunk in among the public.yuekit
- Article by a now-banned Russian paper
https://en.hromadske…yuekit - "Since fall 2014, the government has changed its tactics: it began forming the so-called armed forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic..."yuekit
- In 2014 the Ukrainian nationalists started attacking the pro Russia minorities. They applied sadistic and inhuman tactics.uan
- Ukraine was not able to hold them back. Part of the new Regime even encouraged this behaviour. That's why Putin calls them Nazis.uan
- There are docs from 2016 by german media (ZDF) that show the swastikas and ss tattoos of (some) azov soldiers.uan
- there is also the testimony of Anne Laure Bonnel, french journalist in Donbas about how the Ukrainian military is killing the russian speaking population.uan
- In 2014 Russia annexed Crimea and then sent their military and FSB operatives into Donbas to lead the separatists there.yuekit
- Did the French journalist mention that? It's unclear exactly why Ukraine wouldn't have the right to defend itself against violent separatists backed by ayuekit
- hostile military power with a history of enslaving and genociding Ukrainians.yuekit
- Yes some Ukrainian militias had far-right views, I don't think anyone is denying that. The point of the video is that you simply can't take Russia's narrativeyuekit
- at face value, they are carrying out what they call "non-linear warfare" or hybrid war.
https://cepa.org/the…yuekit - there is more than 2 narratives in this conflict. it's complicated. the russia bad, azov good narrative is being used to convince the west to send more weapons.uan
- "Welcome to Surkov’s Theater: Russian Political Technology in the Donbas War"
https://bit.ly/3MSoe…yuekit - Huh? No one is saying Azov good...they are saying this is a false pretext like Bush's "weapons of mass destruction"yuekit
- Seriously read the links I posted...if Russia wanted peace in Ukraine there's no way they would have carried out all these actions (while lying about it).yuekit
- I read the email leaks, and the hidden soldiers grave one. my intention with my posts was to add some information/context to them.uan
- and I am not pro Russian invasion in this.
let's see what the WEF guys will tell this week in Davos. How they are gonna react to this schism in global trade.uan - Sure I wasn't trying to say you were...I just think this is an interesting side of the story and if anything Western media has done a poor job explaining it.yuekit