America is Fucked

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    "With an anti-abortion president, Ronald Reagan, in power and Republicans controlling the Senate for the first time in decades, social conservatives pushed for a constitutional amendment to allow individual states to overturn Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court ruling that had made abortion legal nationwide several years earlier.

    The amendment — which the National Abortion Rights Action League called “the most devastating attack yet on abortion rights” — cleared a key hurdle in the Senate Judiciary Committee in March 1982. Support came not only from Republicans but from a 39-year-old, second-term Democrat: Joseph R. Biden Jr."

    - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/…

    y'all are wild for downvoting me this much on abortion stuff and claiming i'm uninformed. the democratic party has used the threat of roe being overturned for fundraising and keeping people voting for their otherwise useless platforms.

    i think it's abhorrent to overturn roe, but even codifying it isn't enough to me. i say universal healthcare is a 100% necessity and have it cover all abortions regardless of reason, and i think the half-cocked "just enough" mentalities of the clinton and biden and obama campaigns were a fucking joke when it comes to the bodily autonomy of women.

    so like whatever, downvote my opinions because i think liberals are basically republicans but without an actual ideology, but i find humor in this because the democratic party is at fault for all of this happening, and them crying and bitching about it is absolutely insane to me. there have been ample opportunities - and fuck there STILL ARE if they'd just ditch the filibuster - for them to put this shit through into codification. but there's so few actual differences between the DNC and GOP, roe is one of the only things they have to keep that "right vs left" lie going on.

    even obama could have passed universal healthcare and didn't - they are not a party that knows how to wield power, which is why they always lose it in the most embarrassing ways.

    • i guess its the first time politician change stancepango
    • Why are these just horrible truths always a screenshot, at a low res no less. Where's the link? I just see blah blah blah, conspiracy, blah blah blah.formed
    • even more hilarious is your meme on the bottom. Apparently, you don't talk to many actual humans.formed
    • uh one is a tweet from biden himself, one is a documented record of obama, and then there's an entire NYT article about biden's anti-abortion stance.colin_s
    • the meme on the bottom is there to explain why americans think somehow bernie is "extreme" when he's just a democratic socialist. this is a right wing country.colin_s
    • lol...we're downvoting because you're uninformed colin_s, not because people can't stand any criticism of Democrats.yuekit
    • No it was not possible to pass a bill codifying abortion under either Obama or Biden. They just didn't have enough votes when you factor in conservative,yuekit
    • anti-abortion Southern Democrats like Manchin. There were even more conservative-leaning Dems when Obama was president.yuekit
    • That's all there really is to it. Is your mind really blown away by the fact that Biden says he hopes to pass something before the election, then is unable toyuekit
    • once the actual votes are in and he only has a very thin majority? This is like every presidential administration ever.yuekit
    • At no point in the past decades did Dems have a solid majority that was made up entirely of left-wingers. It was always a coalition of left, center left andyuekit
    • conservative Dems. And the funny thing is, you say America is a right-wing country, but somehow you expected left-wing legislation to be passed easily.yuekit
    • Bernie’s a loser tho. Can’t argue against that simple factnb
    • I still like Bernie Sanders, supported him over Biden. But the idea that he's in the center of American politics is a bit of a stretch isn't it?youngdesigner
    • I think what that graphic is trying to say is that in a normal country, like in Europe, Sanders' views are normal, everyone else is extreme right.yuekit
    • Which is...sort of true, but Sanders was still pretty left-wing. He wanted to spend $16 TRILLION on climate change. What European social democrat is proposingyuekit
    • that? Main problem is that Americans never set up a system of universal health care like most Europeans did. On some issues, such as gay rights and drugyuekit
    • legalization, Americans are actually to the left of many European countries, as much as we like to make fun of them.yuekit
    • maybe biden is really anti abortion and just going with the wind. not unbelievablepango
    • Biden is catholic and so he's supposed to be personally anti-abortion. But shockingly politicians change their view to adapt to where their party is.yuekit
    • this is the largest pile of hot garbage colin has yet produced.BuddhaHat
    • I think the image about being so far out that you fall off the cliff is relevant to this post.palimpsest
    • If you’re anti abortion you’re the fucking problem and deserve a lot worse than downvotes. You deserve to live a sad life ugly af and alone, and never breed.monospaced
    • That “opinion” aside your entire shitpost trying to portray democratic leaders as not serious about this is so ignorant of the big picture it’s not even funny.monospaced
    • Part of the reason it wasn’t codified was because vile deplorable conservatives always threw a hissy fit. Also nobody thought anyone was ugly enough to actuallymonospaced
    • take anti abortion this far. We figured this country had grown up but I guess we were wrong. Conservative, morally fucked ignorant assholes strike again.monospaced

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