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    grafician said:

    "That's just a screenshot to show that even generated NFTs can be saved"

    Only you didn't save anything... OOPS

    You only exposed the code, part of which is needed for the NFT to render. Do you think this NFT only requires 1 file to render? LOL

    Finding the code ≠ "haha I saved this NFT and now it plays fine for me same as the real one"

    ok, then show me it rendering for you on your hard drive. this is easy, c'mon mate

    after you finish with that easy task, then the logical next step is for you to put on a javascript clinic for us all since you are so good at this.

    Give us a lecture on p5js and its relationship to javascript in the context of processing, the original project. While you're at it, throw in something about shaders, three.js, glsl, cables, and best practices for rendering all these on mobile. GOT IT?

    Everybody ready to hear some words of wisdom from grafician?

    Go on then.
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    • Go on, prove how you own That Thing.Nairn
    • ...and you've hit on a very important point nairn. You don't "own" an NFT in the usual sense. You "own" it in the NFT sense. (which is radically different)cherub
    • This is what makes NFTs confusing for some. To "own" it only means the blockchain says you're the owner. Nothing to do with rights, that's separate.cherub
    • Palimpset once said "NFTs are just a receipt saying that you paid for said receipt." This is basically correct. The NFT just points to the ipfs(cloud) file.cherub
    • You do own an NFT in the usual sense. And that is all you own.palimpsest
    • True and I think what throws people off is usually IRL when you own something, you keep it to yourself and others can't have it.cherub
    • This idea of ownership if you try to apply it to NFTs can't and won't work. The file attached to the NFT is public, and not hidden.cherub
    • Tarantino or someone famous was recently toying with private blockchains, in that case then it could work differently.cherub
    • The file is attached to the NFT like hipness is attached to sneakers. They're both just selling points.palimpsest
    • agreed. some ppl will buy the trainers, others will buy the NFT.cherub
    • An NFT does not technologically or legally hold anything outside itself (the token).
      And that's the beauty of it.      palimpsest
    • So we agree you can't right click an NFT, because there's nothing there.palimpsest
    • 2 problems with that statement: -some ascii NFTs actually DO store themselves on chain (they dont' need ipfs). They are all there...cherub
    • -I know what you're getting at and it's the difference between a colloquial meaning and a literal meaning. If you get all meta about it, yes but ppl don't oftencherub
    • think like that.cherub
    • the phrase "The NFT" should reference only the actual token not the associated file on ipfs. However, these fine distinctions get missed in everyday speech.cherub
    • I think we agree on the essential stuff. The difference is that I would like to see NFTs lean on my side and expose speculation even more...palimpsest
    • ANYWAY this whole tangent was just a derail attempt by nairn to save grafician from the inevitable failure looming...cherub
    • ... and leave itself bare to see how far people will buy into it.
      And you seem to lean the other way encouraging...      palimpsest
    • ... the covering up of itself with what I consider superficial layers.palimpsest
    • If you truly believe in NFTs get rid of the smoke and mirrors.
      NFTs are here to save you.      palimpsest
    • "some ppl will buy the trainers, others will buy the NFT." .... but we ain't all in the sneakers thread sparring the same points over and over and over.microkorg
    • 'cos it would be effing tiring and would piss off the folk wanting to use that thread without drama.microkorg
    • Check the sneaker thread. Nobody is claiming that they are at the forefront of medical research. It's just sneakers, no drama.palimpsest
    • My post below listed many reasons why sneakers are much like collectible nfts.microkorg
    • the sneakers comparrsions is about the dumbest thing i ever heard... when it comes to storage of wealth ... nft vs. real objects.neverscared
    • Post all the tokens you want on this thread and you won't hear a peep from me.palimpsest
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