Smart Home S**t

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  • mekk2

    I like the idea of a smart home, e.g.

    - you have a big window to the south and your heating system knows that sun us gonna be heating up the room (time/date, weather forecast) and therefore shuts down to save energy.

    - you have a solar roof and the house knows when energy is likely being produced from it and schedules the washing machine so no coal energy is used for that

    in the two above examples you'd need a lot of capable hardware and a software protocol to build that. It is also built around only getting data from outside and own sensors, and then making a decision offline on a computer running in the house.

    I like that.

    What I don't like is pointless and stupid "smart" devices that are nothing else but a simple web service running on a toaster to inform you via internet that your toast has reached peak brownnness. That stuff is made so insecure and shit, it's scary.

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    In my definition, a smart home gathers relevant data to save energy and maximize comfort by automating itself while being only accessible by physical access and not from an android phone in india. A dumb smart home is just a pile of shitty outdated hardware that will drown you in microservices only designed to sell more horseshit.

    • +++ So true, always thought the same. Don't call a remote control 'smart'.SimonFFM
    • Your fridge is attacked by ransomware and shows vicious DAP porn until you pay in bitcoin, while your front door cam refuses entry because you got a new haircutface_melter
    • Ummm, "smart" thermostats absolutely do shut down when in direct sun, and that requires NO extra capable hardware/software.monospaced
    • They also adjust heating/cooling so you can avoid peaks and it pre-heats/cools as well, which is "smart" beyond what you describe.monospaced
    • These thermostats take in local data about weather, humidity, etc, as well as interior data in your home, all to adjust and refine their schedules to save energmonospaced
    • @mono - yes. One device can work for itself flawlessly. But how about multiple devices with multiple power sources?mekk
    • I'm not following re: multiple power sources.monospaced
    • A modern house has a solar roof, a battery and is connected to the power grid. A smart house can decide what how to either maintain comfort, reduce cost ormekk
    • or reduce emmissions. Based on what goal is set and what are you are currently doing. Like charging your car when the pv storage is low - does the house "buy"mekk
    • "buy" energy from the grid, stop charging the vehicle or reroutes flow directly from the solar roof to the car? Every time a new decision, based on weather,mekk
    • weather, set profiles, targets, current energy price etc.mekk
    • I see. I guess more work needs to go in, which requires more people to adopt. I don’t agree a smart home must have solar and battery storage though.monospaced
    • That isn’t practical nor reflective of reality. Same with electric cars. Not yet at least.monospaced
    • in your world - maybe.mekk

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