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- colin_s-1
got my second moderna shot a couple days ago and still recovering
the masks debate is interesting to me because the CDC is basically just giving out scientific data and the biden administration has all but re-focused on things like israel and the infrastructure plan in terms of political capital - i'd be very surprised to see them turn on a heel and getting back into the mandate debate.
this, understandably, leaves a large part of the electorate concerned over 'mixed messages' or whatever, when really it's quite clear: the people who are necessary for the economy to function are, for the most part, now in the clear, and the US doesn't give a fuck about the rest.
that's, ironically, what normalcy in the US looks like, that's what the administration has been trying to get to. like hurricanes katrina and sandy, shootings at sandy hook and countless other schools, cops murdering people in the street on video and using war-crime grade munitions on citizens, the coronavirus pandemic response will continue to normalize a state response to dire situations in the US where only the economically viable are considered, and any objection to the handling will be disregarded as radical / anti-patriotism, anti-democratic, or based in conspiracy.
so i dunno, like, everyone's getting really excited to return to normal while i'm busy thinking, doesn't anyone realize what opportunities were missed? everyone is so eager to get back to a complete horrorshow of ignorance, they all seem like cypher in the matrix, sitting and eating that fucking steak.
- Cypher was the most fascinating character in the film because it represents those who are enlightened enough to make choice for themselves.pr2
- @pr2 agreed.colin_s
- @pr2 but i don't see the people who want the return to US as 'enlightened' but rather solely self-interested.colin_s
- self-interest is much more good in my book than forcing others to accept the blessings of "freedom"pr2
- Stalinism was based on lack of self-interest. The less we care about others (by imposing our "good" will onto them) the better the world we'll live in.pr2
- "care" above should be in quotation marks as it doesn't represent the sort of care we assume when one individuals genuinely cares about another.pr2
- @colin_s Has it occurred to you that maybe the old status quo was "fine" or acceptable to most Americans? I'm not saying it was objectively good.********
- It's just that, like, a lot of people just want to drink a beer and watch Netflix and go to Walmart on the weekend. They love it.********
- Oh I guess that's what you're saying in the last paragraph. Yeah. I think most people are sort of ok ignoring all the bad shit in the world********
- @nb yes that's exactly what i mean - people are ok with the horror as long as they don't have to face it, which is why trump was problematiccolin_s
- @pr2 i disagree that individualism is a better platform, i think it's actually the wrong way. i think we should care about the public good.colin_s
- YOUR assumption of what public good is might vastly differ that what MINE is. It differs because we don't know our particular circumstances.pr2
- this point was proven over and over in socialist countries where some bureaucrat was telling people hundreds of miles away how to live, and do their jobs.pr2
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