Coronavirus
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We have been engaged in this contract of pandemic prevention for over a year and most of us us justify the adverse effects of lockdown etc. on our own health because we know it will save the lives of many more elderly and at-risk people. So, when governments remind us how "an ICU stay from Covid is SO statistically unlikely for under 50s', that the risk from death from the vaccine isn't worth it." That only makes me want the vaccine more... I can only imagine that's amplified for young adults who are the most adversely affected by lockdown measures, have experienced it as a relatively longer proportion of their life and know they will pay for it the longest.
It would seem in the US if you get public transport on your way to and from getting the AZ vaccine, you are more likely to die in an accident than to have a serious adverse reaction to it.
AZ is presumably (from the trials) less risky for young people but the logic used to ban it for age groups is essentially "You would expect to see many more deaths < 50 y/o because there are many more people in that age group". Its a bit like suggesting to someone in their 80s to go skydiving because death is statistically unlikely while telling someone in their 20s not to. The risk of the person in their 80s dying would be many thousands times higher than the younger person - but very few elderly people go skydiving.
I would hate to be young right now, I've got friends going though terrible shit with their kids atm. I'd also hate to be a woman... Its thought 3 - 10 women per million die from taking the birth control pill ALONE yet we entirely accept that as a valid risk?? Most of these CVST cases with AZ were found to be related to women in their 50s on birth control (this as far as I can tell is the only confirmed factor which makes it more statistically risky for under 65s).
There are definitely some people that should not be getting AZ, if you remove what are now preventable interactions with other medications from the figures it may not be an issue at all. As I see it all adults should be able to evaluate their own circumstances in what is an equal risk to all adults - that does not seem to be a public health issue.
I'd imagine there will be more of these age bans but unless more serious side-effects are found - many of the age bans on AZ will be lifted before it becomes an issue for the supply and it's just another reminder of the massive fuck up that is the reality we've built for ourselves.