Coronavirus
Coronavirus
Out of context: Reply #4671
- Started
- Last post
- 6,418 Responses
- Nairn2
"I said death rate, not number of cases!" - pr2, when he reads the above.
Sure, but death rates are a bit of a murky metric as there are peripheral national and social reasons for that to not reflect the spread and effect of the virus.
Nonetheless:
- ah ok, so you only pay attention to data that supports your beliefs? but this is just "murky"? yeah... you hypocrite.pr2
- Look at the graph. Does Sweden have the same death rate as cousin countires around it with stronger lockdown measures? No.Nairn
- son, don't make simplistic arguments. here you your 10 year average of sweden's deaths: https://www.statista…pr2
- here ispr2
- vast majority of those extra deaths came from old people homes and so indeed if Swedes wanted to keep their overall mortality down, they should...pr2
- ...have made their old people homes more stringent BUT don't tell me that they should have wrecked lives of millions of people to avoid those extra deaths.pr2
- The Swedish health minister admitted he’d probably fucked up. He didn’t double speak it, just said it matter of fact.PhanLo
- They also just let old people die in the hospitals or homesPhanLo
- Your link there shows an increase of 7,267 deaths in 2020 over the yearly average since 2011. What's your point?Nairn
- Also, 2019 was an unusual year, having over two thousand less deaths than the average of the preceding eight years, heightening the trend.Nairn
- *signal, not trend, sorry.Nairn
- Naim, if a 10k increase (in population of over 10 mil) is worthwhile for you to shut down a country, then nothing i ever say will convince you.pr2
- That's not your point that I'm contesting.Nairn
- I'm contesting your inate assumptions (for that's what they appear to be) which underlie your over-all thinking.Nairn
- i'm assuming nothing - just looking at data.pr2
- UK had strict lockdown, and? Germany was really good about it and it didn't feer much better than Sweden. Your point?pr2
- 330/10=33
33x10.000=330.000Beeswax - As per WHO, lockdowns are there only to protect the health system, NOT to stop the spread. And yet somehow it mutated into just that in people's heads.pr2
- Sure, which is why the UK curve in the graph <here started higher because earlier on it had a higher incidence due to poorer lockdown conditions.Nairn
- ..as too Sweden.Nairn
- I'm not actually against you, but on the whole lockdown thing, you flat-out state shit that isn't entirely trufthful.Nairn
- ech't "I'm not actually against you on the whole lockdown thing, but you flat-out.." editard.Nairn
- all of this is about whether to wear a mask or not? fucking lol. just stfu and put one on until this blows over. the countries that did are better off for it.scarabin
- i can't believe people are still getting butthurt about having to pay a little more attention to their hygienescarabin
- beating each other over the head with numbers hahascarabin
- every day my pharmacist gf tells me about another patient or two who died of covid. people immediately around us. just her store. this shit is not pretend y'allscarabin
- This is the bottom line, very small inconvenience for most of us really. And sorry but I feel worse for a dead person than the mental health of some babies_niko
- Waaa I don’t want to wear a mask waaa my freedoms waaa it’s a conspiracy waaa the great reset waaa bill gates waaa vaccines waaaa 5g. Fuck man._niko
- you gentlemen have to get out more more and see the serious mental damage the fear does to the grownups, the youth and the kids.pr2
- "I" seriously feel worse for the VAST numbers of population who's going insane than the tiny, tiny minority who had the bad end of the stick.pr2
- there is a list of 500,000 Americans who have died from covid. this is fact. this is science as you say. where is your list of people that have gone insane?_niko
- Ah Niko c'mon man, it's actually 555K people who have died in the US. Only 100K off the total killed in the US during the Spanish Flu. Which was deadlierPhanLo
- come on Niko, there is research everywhere nowdays. Just google the stats. There was 100% jump in clinical mental cases in just 1 year.pr2
- You haven't seen someone "loosing it" yet? Am i that privileged to have seen a few of those cases already?pr2
- Only a true shitbag would bring up how sad people are as a good reason to let people die. A true lowlife piece of human scum. All to fit an anti mask narrative.monospaced
- I don’t give a fuck about how inconvenienced this has made you Karen. Don’t be a fucking cunt.monospaced
- who was the asshole again? after the conversation turns into acid it's hard to figure out********
- mono, for being stupid and kinda lame with his insults.pr2
- lol! "the serious mental damage the fear does to the grownups, the youth and the kids."over wearing a fucking mask for a few months? hahahahascarabin
- it's not even a permanent thing. cover your nasty maw when out in public for what, a year? tops?? and it's over. other countries did they're already done w/ itscarabin
- Haven't read the whole thing, the english are fat and stupid with partyday beforeevere announced lockdown, the swedes used an "alternative" and inhumane strat..ArchitectofFate
- Just to add fuel to the fire, Madrid has had no real lockdown since last March and has no higher death rate than Paris or London.Chimp