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  • mg330

    Well this might put a pause on ordering a mini...

    M1 Mac Users Report Excessive SSD Wear
    Across Twitter and the MacRumors forums, users are reporting that ‌M1‌ Macs are experiencing extremely high drive writes over a short space of time. In what appear to be the most severe cases, ‌M1‌ Macs are said to be consuming as much as 10 to 13 percent of the maximum warrantable total bytes written (TBW) value of its SSD.

    Flash memory on solid-state drives, such as those used in Macs, can only be written to a certain number of times before they become unstable. Software ensures that load is spread evenly across the drive's memory cells, but there is a point when the drive has been written to so many times that it can no longer reliably hold data. So while SSD wear is normal, expected behavior, drives should not be exhausting their ability to hold data as quickly as some ‌M1‌ Macs seem to be.

    One user showed that their ‌M1‌ Mac had already consumed one percent of its SSD after just two months, while another ‌M1‌ Mac with a 2TB SSD had already consumed three percent. The total data units written for these machines is running into many terabytes, when they would normally be expected to be considerably lower.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2021/0…

    • growing pains for first-gen products_niko
    • The only real problem here is that the SSD is soldered on. I'm also weary of the low ram of those computers, I get the impression they use excessive disk accesszarkonite
    • to compensate to move around data. That being said I haven't asked anyone competent how it actually works behind the scenes...zarkonite
    • the RAM issue hasn't really become a big one, because while it's lower, things are moving in/out of it much much faster, so not much is used at once.monospaced
    • Anyway, if 2 months is 2% of your SSD, then you have 8 years until it's fried. 16 years if you burn 1 month at a time. I know almost nothing about this.monospaced
    • I'm sure the ssd thing is a big pile of nothing, Apple's thought about this already for sure. As for ram, until major video people test it thoroughly I'm stayinzarkonite
    • away. I can't afford a problem.zarkonite
    • Do what I did, stop reading reviews and review it yourself.

      ; )
      ideaist
    • @zark, major video people HAVE tested it thoroughly. It's all over YouTube.monospaced
    • Show me pls, I've only seen superficial tests. You can't really do serious video work on a mini or imac. I haven't seen anyone ingest 20 terabytes in a Nuke...zarkonite
    • Just checked creative cow and on a simple 44 layer edit the iMac Pro performed better than the Mini M1. Resolve's even worse.zarkonite
    • Reading further in the forums it looks like plugin support is a nightmare...zarkonite
    • yeah, and yet the M1 can edit 4k video, with filters, without dropping a single frame, real-time, and not even the iMac Pro can do thatmonospaced
    • In some software, it smokes the iMac Pro in video export and editing. I'm sure you can find some cases where 16bit plugins and some packages aren't as fastmonospaced
    • But in general, for most content producers, the M1 is actually a better machine. Some dudes are selling Mac Pros and switching.monospaced
    • "In some software, it smokes the iMac Pro in video export and editing." I'm not trying to contradict you but I haven't seen anything remotely like that in thezarkonite
    • all the pro video forums I'm familiar with. I've been doing this for a long time, and if you have better info pls share.zarkonite
    • I'm not saying you're wrong, bro. I only saw some YouTube videos where guys are showing this. I'm sure it's with specific software and other things, though.monospaced

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