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    • Scientists would create banana stickers that the other monkeys could trade. 1 banana sticker would be equal to 40k bananas.palimpsest
    • Everyone wins!palimpsest
    • If 1 monkey is able to hoard all the bananas while the other monkeys are sitting on their ass starving doesn't that monkey deserve to be on the cover of Forbes?palimpsest
    • In this analogy, other monkeys would need to glorify the banana-rich monkey.nb
    • And shouldn't scientists be asking themselves why are these idiot monkeys eating bananas in the first place?palimpsest
    • Why aren't the starving monkeys using the resources available to them? What kind of environment are they living in?palimpsest
    • Why focus all the research resources on that one idiot monkey hoarding the bananas instead of actually solving the problem of starving monkeys?palimpsest
    • The focus on the accumulation of "wealth" rather having basic needs covered is what is wrong with this capitalist based science.palimpsest
    • The reality of this particularly idiotic analogy is that they monkeys with no bananas would get together and tear the banana hoarder to fucking peices. Because.Morning_star
    • ..they're fucking animals and have no law, commerce, healthcare, roads, schools, hospitals, military etc etc.Morning_star
    • My job here is done.
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    • I think you'll find the monkey that hoards all the banana's can't eat all the banana's as they rot and ferment. So he too dies. And the monkeys go extinct.shapesalad
    • Nathalie, that's a bad comparison. You should've made this example: What if Nestlé or an other corp was privatizing drinking water and hoarded it all.NBQ00
    • ...while most humans had no access to drinking water and had to buy it from Nestlé & co.NBQ00
    • @Morning, that doesn't happen. Primates have strong social communities, with hierarchies and such, complete with respect and kinship.monospaced
    • @mono You are joking aren't you. https://www.newscien…Morning_star
    • @mono. They murder for fun. They have gangs that bully and rape. Not all species but primates have a very, very dark side.Morning_star
    • "Some primatologists believe that up to 90% of male chimpanzees participate in murder at some point in their lives" https://youtu.be/ZT9…Morning_star
    • It also turns out monkeys don't actually eat bananas, we've all been lied to.
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    • The article says this is rare. And that it underpins a complex social system.monospaced
    • Literally one of nine known cases.monospaced
    • “... tension between conflict and cooperation, which is central to the lives of chimpanzees and even to our own.” Yes. REALLY.monospaced
    • Sounds like you really have it out for primates man. Especially non human ones. I actually don’t think we’re all as different as you do. Neither do experts.monospaced
    • @mono I don’t think we’re different at all. The tweets claims that animals, particularly primates aren’t blessed with a selfish, violent anti-social side. You..Morning_star
    • ...also claimed that they aren’t violent and murderous. They are. In the same way murder, rape and violence is rare in human society, it still occurs.Morning_star
    • I only said that violence doesn't define them. Got the impression you were saying they are moralless savages who all murder all the time. That isn't true.monospaced

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