Is Flash dead?
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My take on this....interested in other thoughts.
Flash was very dependent on CPU speed to work. People that worked on desktops with the fastest CPUs designed them. The work could be great, but only on desktop where the CPU did the work.
Along comes the iPhone, which had a CPU with a fraction of the power of a desktop CPU. But it surfed the web so it *seemed* like it should run flash sites but really could not for the most part.
Steve Jobs, master marketer, knew this. He did not want to have his new baby look like it could not run the most advanced websites, so he came up with his famous letter in which he refused to put Flash on the iPhone....citing security, battery life, crashes, etc. He never came out and said 'look, the iPhone cannot run these sites because they are designed for desktop computers which are ten times faster than the iPhone.' He made it look like it was a Flash problem. Genius deflection
Everything in web design changed within months. A colleague of mine who was always cutting edge immediately killed his flash portfolio site and redesigned in with just HTML. He knew what was happening.
In the end, it was really inevitable. The proliferation of mobile devices that were slower and ran on less bandwidth meant that the design world had to adjust. Thus mobile friendly flash-less web sites became the norm.
I remember that Google made noises that the Android would run Flash anyway, despite Jobs statement, but they probably did this to fuck with Apple and get some publicity. In the end Android never really ran Flash either.
Could Adobe have done something? Probably, but they would have had to immediately make Flash so it could produce lower bandwidth and CPU intensive designs. But they were Adobe, so moved slowly. By the time they even came up with anything....i remember some feeble attempts to do something....everyone had an iphone or android phone in their pocket and web design was all mobile friendly and HTML only. Flash was practically dead by then.
- Adobe is the only company that could have saved flash. Blaming Apple so retardedly ignorant.monospaced
- I love when you create a discussion and someone downvotes it without saying anything. LOLdkoblesky
- Blaming a device that had less than 2% of the phone market is so childish and stupid it’s not worth a sentence let alone this whole write upmonospaced
- I am not 'blaming' anything...where do you get that?dkoblesky
- If your argument was correct (it’s not) then the phones that DID run flash (most of them) would have succeeded. But adobe didn’t care. At all.monospaced
- Oh....you think I am bashing Apple? I did say Jobs was a marketing genius...wasn't that enough?dkoblesky
- Steve wasn’t wrong btw. Flash didn’t work on mobile phones. It sucked for web seo. It was left behind. By adobe.monospaced
- what is your take on the death of Flash then monospaced?dkoblesky
- Adobe didn’t make a mobile worthy product and never adapted it to work on android or iOS.monospaced
- Remember. Flash isn’t an Apple product. It sucked foe mobile. Proof is that it failed even with MAJORITY MARKET SHARE FOR A DECADEmonospaced
- Adobe is to blame. They fcuked up Macromedia!grafician
- Wanna bet Macromedia would've found a way to run Flash on mobiles and make it great? Adobe just bought Macromedia to kill the competition.grafician
- Now Adobe lost the product design market, the iPad market, even Photoshop is not #1 for many workflows, fuck em!grafician
- If somebody replaces Ae with a good app, Adobe will be dead in 3-5 yearsgrafician