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    Reading the Wikipedia article on Amy Coney Barrett makes me far less afraid of her than most of my friends seem to be.

    On one hand, there is the unknown position on abortion (she has never ruled on a case of this nature, so we just don't know. But it's scary.) I assume she has told Trump she is anti-abortion, which I also believe Trump is, and this is why he picked her. However, keep in mind that a judge can be at the same time anti-abortion while understanding that it is legally protected.

    Here are some quotes from her that ease my mind:

    "My personal church affiliation or my religious belief would not bear on the discharge of my duties as a judge."

    "It is never appropriate for a judge to impose that judge's personal convictions, whether they arise from faith or anywhere else, on the law."

    She endorsed the Catholic Church's teachings on human sexuality and its definition of marriage as between one man and one woman BUT when asked about the letter, she testified that the Church's definition of marriage is legally irrelevant. This is true, and the kind of statements I like to hear from judges.

    She's obviously not what I want, I think the next president should pick (if only because Republicans forced this with their bullshit last round.) But, hey, if she gets on the bench, not the end of the world.

    Let's all take it easy a little bit. Try to chill.

    • She worked for Scalia. You may not have liked everything Scalia said, but he was a decent judge.
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    • eh dems didn't control senate last round. part of the balance of power. and she isnt bad. better than the deceased by a mile. not very interested ppl who think
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    • the constitution is lacking in social equality shit. because that all but relative. and ones social equality is not anothers. its great because its axioms
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    • Constitution gets amended. It’s meant to be a living document, dbGnash
    • Deathboy is obviously an idiot, just ignore him.
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    • it can get amended but needs to be sound. ginsburg reasoning is not sound
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    • special rights for some and not others. i mena unless your black and property right?!
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    • but if u want to try to explain how private agreements of people can have special abilities for lawsuit based on gender go ahead
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    • seems arbitrary and special interest as fuck but convince me otherwise
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    • Aren't these all just quotes from confirmation hearings where she has to reassure the other side? What's she going to say, "yes I am a religious fanaticyuekit
    • actually." Of course there's a reason why conservatives go to such great lengths to get these people appointed.yuekit
    • Ok, but all we can really go on is her words and her track record. A lot of people want to pretend they know what she’ll do, despite no evidence to suggest it.
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    • Republicans supporting her means little at this point. They have openly stated they will confirm ANY nominee trump makes. It’s a moot point.
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    • Yeah but the reason she was picked is because she has a track record of extremely conservative rulings. Moving the courts in a right-wing direction isyuekit
    • something the GOP has been working on for a long time. They keep tabs on all the judges, and apparently this woman is their top pick. Trump himself has veryyuekit
    • little to do with it. He's just nominating the people they want him to.yuekit
    • What are these extremely conservative rulings you speak of? I have not seen them! Honest question.
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    • i think Conservatives are putting too much hope in the life expectancy of males over 50 in general... Heart Disease, Cancer, Prostate Cancer, Colorectal Cancerjonny_quest_lives
    • Falls, Stroke, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, Diabetes, Influenza and Pneumonia, Suicide, Kidney Disease, Alzheimer’s Diseasejonny_quest_lives
    • so 1 to 3 openings in the court within 4 to 8 years would not be surprising. Also I wouldn't cry if the Democrats raised the number of justices to 11...jonny_quest_lives
    • Mitch McConnell made it a totally justifiable option by not even bringing Merrick Garland's Nomination to a vote in the Senate.jonny_quest_lives
    • @nb https://www.pfaw.org…yuekit
    • https://www.politico…yuekit
    • But regardless of her individual track record, simply having a 6-3 conservative court (made up of pretty extreme conservatives) is the main issue.yuekit
    • John Roberts, who was appointed by George Bush, would mostly vote with the other conservatives but would occasionally side with liberals to reach a moreyuekit
    • moderate decision. Now they won't even need his vote.yuekit
    • 6-3... 5-4 already wins right and as we have seen. Pretty moderate. And ukit right wing is the good wing that isn't malformed. Left is a slow cancer
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    • Simply because it is focused on collective rights. Which negates individual rights and takes a huge step backwards in western enlightenment
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    • But than again no real party of anything. Look at trump giving special rights in platinum package for blacks. U can either respect individual rights or allow
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    • Some gov to exercise collective rights through sham systems. And when u go that route almost all suffering is justified
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    • Uighurs in china. Justified. Jews justified. Slavery justified. (Logical hoop was classification as property, not about actual individual rights) but would tota
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    • Ly just if a majority could benefit and vote for it. Or a leader to exec order it.
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    • That's the problem with collective rights because it is a logical fallacy a contruct
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    • Ignoring deathboi posts as usual. I’m still waiting to hear about these cases where she ruled politically to the right rather than on legal merits.
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    • Check out the links I posted aboveyuekit
    • reason.com covers a lot of them as well
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    • But the fear of 6-3 ignoring current 5-4.. no one gonna tough that hysteria shit huh?
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