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hey ukit. Here's a thought. The general left is going for state expert/science as rule to follow. I wonder if it due to innate nature and insecurities of most people. What was mostly managed by faiths and religion had created a vacuum. Something of un fulfillment and fear of... climate change or any damnation made up. There is something comforting to most people to believe someone has everything planned for them and future. are todays staticians left leaders the new prophets?. i think there is a decent thesis piece on this
- I'd love to read your thesis on this topic. You have 'specialist' written all over you.Ianbolton
- Science is comforting because to date it is the only practice that has given us any answers on the subject. Religion never even touches on it.monospaced
- In fact, science is the only thing to date that humans have found that can help determine answers to anything. Religion doesn’t do anything like that.monospaced
- Scientist aren’t prophets. They don’t make unsubstantiated claims that they can’t back up. The comparison is ridiculous.monospaced
- man that holds a belief that an economic system designed to inhibit trade between a merchant class in the middle east thousands of years ago andkingsteven
- redefined by early 20th century naturalists as pseudo-scientific anti-communist ideology is a 'natural system' has problem with actual science. shocker.kingsteven
- but i look forward to your thesis "how nature inhibits the natural system of economics" - sounds like a hootkingsteven
- Hmm point being missed. Science/expert/stati... not all the same nor does a title mean shit. Yet you think a science that says something you dont understand********
- must be infallible and correct. Plenty of scientific papers, stats out there no one agrees on. Same objective measures of titles.********
- But you cling to your hope, or faith in your preferred promises by your new scientific prophets.********
- which we see is the obvious case. you have all displayed it. its not even a question. my hypothesis is religion or salvation in a beleif might be hard coded for********
- most humans. As we see general church numbers decline we are seeing mroe and more crazy "science" believers. 12 years until death is like end of day shit.********
- makes me wonder if religion is a better choice of value structures in controlling the innate behavior of some humans. it has parables and value, where the other********
- is fear with no aim. We all know a fear of death is motivation to live. Is the thought of dying too much for some brains has to put up firewalls. And the fire********
- walls present themselves in basic ignorance to an authority that promises them salvation because if you ask me that is bliss as fuck********
- and since most knowledge now is mostly people having an opinion about something with 0 critical thinking skills. why not science. religion was the science of it********
- days. just new "progressive" believers and flocks********
- its actually so simple saying i tout loud im sure plenty written on it already********
- oh and haha -16. rating systems are funny. they also tell you alot********
- Nobody said science is infallible. It is in fact always improving. It makes mistakes and it fixes them. Unlike religion.monospaced
- Ha your definition is no matter what its always positive and needs to be followed?********
- When do you ignore science?********
- What scientist do u choose to follow when they have different science?********
- You are just proving my point********
- db, i'm sure you've seen my posts in the covid thread that describe exactly the phenomenon of scientific policy vs theory and the social science of compliancekingsteven
- i'm just having a laugh at the lack of self awareness of you philosophising a belief system while not addressing that you're specifically talking about policykingsteven
- that inhibits the freedom of markets and therefore your own belief system.kingsteven
- Uh what are u thinking I'm talking about dude. None of anything I wrote deals with market forces u loon. It has to do with human nature substituting science for********
- Religion. A vacuums gets filled. And I have no idea of your theories buddy. If I recall u are the not very bright commie. Set in his ways and says wack shit********
- Like this. I do t even think u understand your own philosophies u follow. Just following for the sake of it********
- you hold a belief in the invisible hand of the market, yes? that is social science that is disputed, yes? would you like to explain how that is different fromkingsteven
- a belief in global warming?kingsteven
- invisible hand we have seen throughout history. logically makes sens, but culturally it can also fail making it not a hard science********
- but i go by its track record. global warming. we'll fix and call climate change because any warming is balanced with a decrease. lots of data reports but********
- very poor track record and very short modern history of what like 50 years? where as capitalism much longer.********
- i mean many geologists do counter climate change alarmists and point to carbon dating and other objective measures where climate********
- changed dramatically on larger scopes. Hell most scientists believe pre industrial civilizations mayans were decimated by climate phenomenon********
- with that said i dont not believe in climate change. think its silly to think such things. but equal to or more i think peopel have solutions to "solve" climate********
- change or control. can man control the seasons as well? infinite summer? think about the hubris involved. as same as hubris involved in every culture that tries********
- to control a free market organic system thinkign theyre smarter than something they are only a single point of. never gettign it lives bigger than them, same as********
- climate********
- i mean, i'm not trying to say that one is right and the other isn't ... but the most commonly touted 'solution' for climate change is an end to capitalismkingsteven
- due to it's inability to act to the benefit of society in terms of limiting environmental damage. wouldn't man made climate change be incompatible with yourkingsteven
- belief in the invisible hand? and therefore as worthy of ridicule for exactly the the same reason you deride a belief in science?kingsteven
- im not a commie or a socialist btw. but i am interested in your motivations in limiting yourself to a particular school of free market theory in the same way askingsteven
- you are interested in peoples belief in 'science' - given your absolutism in underpinning concepts such as govt market regulation and egoism and your inabilitykingsteven
- to embrace the cognitive dissonance needed for consideration of alternative theories you do come across as at best non-scientific and perhaps cultish.kingsteven
- When scientists disagree, the only known process to figure out who is right or wrong is more science. That is what science means you fucking retard.monospaced
- If your conclusion is "science is as stupid as religion" when there is an incorrect or incomplete scientific understanding, then you are in fact the idiot.monospaced
- Do yourself a favor and learn about what science is, what the scientific process is, and what the community has in place to ensure science is always improving.monospaced
- Thing is, there is no "belief" in science. There is science, and it's real and true whether you want to accept it or not.monospaced
- Thing is, you actually rely on and accept the majority of all science to keep you alive and well every day. To deny only small parts of it is idiotic.monospaced
- hahaha king you sir are an idiot. capitalism is to blame for allowing peopel to get what they want. not what they need. and that is no phones, not electiricty********
- and live in mudhuts as all other civilizations ruined by climate change...********
- mono you are also stupid. you clearly are thinkign the term science as omnipotent truth. when its really nothing. science of 80s graphic design?********
- in the case of climate change the only science is data models. which is more statistics than science since there is 0 objective truth. Not hard science********
- depending on data and grants and interpretation you get a result... did you notice every model has been incorrect? but "science!" its infallible.********
- jsut admit your a fuckin tool on your science hangup instead of constantly reinforcing it********
- And still no ukit. Wonder why. I think it touches a little to close to home and challenged retain contsructs********
- Starting to see a pattern********
- i was talking hypothetically, even put a wee caveat at the start. but if that is how you want to respond. i'll just assume i'm right and that climate change iskingsteven
- incompatible with your political thought.kingsteven
- anchoring your argument hypothetically around an unsourced or defined argument. get called out on it. get butt hurt. reinforces own bullshit********
- haha come on buddy please explain how climate change is incompatible with political thought. i think politically different than u and accept climate change is********
- "real". so is the incompatibility due to what i think is objectively reasonable considering economies and freedom or what you hop could be?********
- and i say hope because there is no objective measure or requirements to "ease" climate change. And what it will do to people.********