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    Let's look at facts. Fauci said no reason why voting is unsafe. And yet democratic gov insist on adding to deficits the cost of mailing out ballots to any "registered" voter and in some states even ignoring signatures where as other don't even need a location to be sent. So if health is not an issue and doing it at great expense must mean different motives right? Is it blind faith and hope by trying to make it more accessible for youth with parents or game system. Even have nba china push on location with celebs. But at least we can squash covid-19 scare which makes me wonder it it was the whole point in the first place. Very opportunitive. And emergency powers with covid also allowed governors to over step into secretary of states domain and control them... But the biggest question to me is who and why such optics for an election is taking place. Any reasonable person sees it suspect as fuck and going to question it's integrity. So who's anti us so pissed and rather it burn if they can't control? It's things like that which make me vote trump this year. I hate his smug character as much as obama's. But I have never seen such it's either this way or fuck everyone from a party before. Idea of stacking judges or more impeachment. It's absurd.

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    • You lost me at the first line. If you think that's all Fauci said, you're a halfwit mate.BusterBoy
    • You really want four more years of this. Four years of stupid tabloid headlines and controversies.yuekit
    • Because media feeds it's. Fuck them. I'm more dick of them and there division
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    • Buster yes he said safe if with masks and 6 ft apart
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    • Thought it was implied since illegal not to these days
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    • The thing ukit is the irrational exhuberence of the left is scary as fuck. I'll take another 4 years of trump over their new ideologies. They historically cance
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    • Who know with another 4 years of trump and anti trump mindset china will rule us all
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    • But I don't like the left instagram nature of whatever is tiktok hot nonsense and with no philosophy behind anything
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    • Hell the straight forward stack judge shit shows they are no better and probably worse than trump
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    • Take his vanity over there power hungry little paws. I actually think they believe they have it in the sac. Which is spooky
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    • Means actions and covid funds are bigger picture. Trying to inflate budget far past trump levels
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    • Am I incorrect in seeing the partisan measures?
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    • I dunno man, even putting all the politics of liberal and conservative aside, I just want this to end. It's like a 24/7 Jerry Springer show.yuekit
    • So much time wasted focusing on this one attention seeking TV celebrity. The entire world wants it over, but a minority of voters in the US has the power toyuekit
    • keep it going. And after this what, Donald Trump Jr? Ivanka Trump? Kayne West? It's never gonna end lol.yuekit
    • You should listen to Bill Weld, who I think you said you were supporting earlier this year. That is someone who is actually intelligent and principled.yuekit
    • Bill Weld isn't voting for Trump, in fact he endorsed Biden.yuekit
    • Well he also endorsed clinton on johnson ticket. I like him. He has political charisma.
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    • And I'm totally as tired as this spilt nation divisiveness is at u. But Biden isn't key. Truth is this is beginning
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    • Take so many left Trump's and success. Realize ent Trump's policy. People don't care about policy. I'll take 4 more years of trump and see if ppl
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    • Come to any sense. I don't think at all he will go xi or Putin. And his policy has been pretty good
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    • The division by mainstreamedia in one sided hit jobs though... I will admit if like a little redirective narrative to peace
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    • But. I don't think it's peace. I think it's fringe political shit akun to bsjeviks. Take CA banning gas card. On what reason?
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    • These cunts are all about power no matter the suffering
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    • It's not a novel arguement. But the way I see it. I share your same sentiment. I just see different s in removing it
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    • Also be great if media didn't act like every tweet with spin was huge. Maybe ignore tweets. Focus on legislation. Effects and such. Remeber congress is more imp
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    • Than Freudian slip chasing their emperor
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    • And none of any of that goes to the manipulations be pulled for elections that have very large negative effects. As I said hard to believe any outco.e
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    • The lengths to undermine all semblance of legit system undermines everything. And it's not trump calling it out. It common sense
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    • Gonna be hard for public to accept such after this with preemptive media protocols and censorship
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    • And nothing is done non partisan. It's all very one sided
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    • i do think ukit your are being nieve, as much as i am. im trying to delay the inevitable u are embracing it. i just think i understand it better. im far
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    • less emotion driven an cynical, give me a different view of things
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    • I think the reason Bill Weld opposes Trump is because Bill Weld is a liberal Republican, classical liberal. Who believes in certain principles like individualyuekit
    • rights, personal freedom, free trade. And he recognizes, correctly I'd say that Trump doesn't believe in any of these things.yuekit
    • id agree. trump believes what is popular but from conservative side... but maybe media talking
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    • his sc picks pretty moderate, his policies he tried actually very libertarian.
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    • in 4 years did he block roe vs wade or restrict personal freedoms?
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    • i think he did more for personal freedom than obama
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    • look at education with devos and pushing for charters.thats choice. allowing no penalty for health insurance. thats choice
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    • i also thought bill weld was a sheep in wolf clothing. but he could talk and impressed by his historical knowledge. i think trump in new in not hiding intention
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    • weld, biden clinton bushes obamas, hide our "intentions" albeit clearly known. it ruffles feathers. i cant honestly say if its best method
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    • but i also dont think media critizes him properly about being self interested. i actually believe he cares more so than other presidents.
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    • i also wonder if that is a charm media cant figure out
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    • and i popped a new question for u. something mulling over see your thoughts as a NON SIDE NOTE!
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    • I think when Trump says let's bring back torture, throw this person in jail, this newspaper should be shut down, or maybe I won't step down even if I lose theyuekit
    • election...which he just said today...that tells you the reality of his views and what you're voting for.yuekit
    • It's not libertarian. It's actually much more like China, authoritarian capitalism or state capitalism. In China you do have economic freedom, in some casesyuekit
    • more than in the USA, but there's no real individual rights and if the state wants to seize your company they can.yuekit
    • If you are causing trouble or not being sufficiently "patriotic" the government will single you out and come after you.yuekit
    • And of course people are constantly being bombarded with nationalistic propaganda and cult of personality about the strong leader.yuekit
    • Trump can't carry out all those things, partly because the U.S. system still has some limits on the president's power and partly because he's an idiot. But youyuekit
    • can see from his comments that this is basically what he believes in. And I think that's why people who actually do have liberal principles like Bill Weld areyuekit
    • against him. What is disappointing, and I think surprised a lot of people (but didn't surprise me that much) is how few Americans actually care about thoseyuekit
    • principles at all. Many are perfectly happy to scrap the entire thing if you just tell them there's some terrorists or Antifa coming to get you.yuekit
    • This boy has perfected his gibberish. Turd- word salad. "As useful as asking a hair dryer for advice" they say.FNP14
    • yuekit thats all media headlines. he never said he wouldnt step down. and everything thing u mention trump stand for is contrived of out of context shit by medi
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    • in 4 years never has the MSM given him a fair shake. he has always been the bad man. hell trump i think we can agree upon stands for nothing
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    • as most politicians are that are human and just looking for job security and personal gain
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    • and as media always states he stands for nothing, so how can he stand for other ideals they list?
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    • and its the measures of media, promises from elected officials on left and their scorch earth mentality that has made me realize its them that is the issue. not
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    • trump. nor is trump a fix. hes a stop gap from a collective left, in what appears to be a media feedback loop. saw it in 2016 at results and it has only progre
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    • ssed since. I like bill welds historical knowledge, charisma, but i also recognize he has no philosophy. he bends in the wind. hes a politician, and as good as
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    • good as obama if not better because his historical knowledge and broader understanding. why i voted the ticket.
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    • and the antifa or terrorist is a fear gimmick. same way as SS, job security, insurance, education, etc etc. ppl are motivated by fear.
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    • the lefts fear is so much more worse than the right. becuase programs installed (especially that last longer than person who installed them) are usually built
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    • to fail. they give or promise more than is possible. and they are always leveraged by politicians out of fear. the gamblers double down
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    • and cant walk away mentality until broke. where as rights fear is more honest and less destructive
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    • you cant have an endless ware raising taxes without equally people being pissed. which is the point of gov. secure all. not some socially.
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    • and to my main point. fauci the guy trump gets heckled to ignore says in place voting perfectly safe. so why all the new procedures never tested from state to
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    • state. https://madison.com/…
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    • a bit interesting. similar to our dem gov who used covid emergency powers to allow ballot harvesting. sec state tried to plea ok but if you turn in more than
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    • 5 you need to register your affiliation or group and got nixed. seems pretty bipartisan. and i think common sense people thinking wtf. the acts undermine all
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    • confidence. just wonder if that is the point.without a doubt there is ulterior motives. acting like its in the bag like lushenko
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    • see how the color revolution plays out. it was only a matter of time until our techniques used against us
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    • Yeah not buying it...unfortunately I pay close enough attention to this stuff to know those are things he actually did say, and not just the media making it up.yuekit
    • did u watch the actual clip? can you show me its context. what i saw was a loaded question of losing whe he denied he would lose but wait and see
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    • but AGAIN. if you believe fauci and he states no reason why not to vote normal. why so much untested and controlled policy?
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    • democrats are spending a shit ton (taxpayer) money on mailing out ballots and making ballot harvesting cool. why? not for the good of the ppl
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    • Haha Trump himself voted by mail just last month
      https://www.npr.org/…      yuekit
    • You're falling for some very transparent and obvious propaganda here. There's no evidence for ballot harvesting or anything like that.yuekit
    • The Republican party is sending out mail in ballots...wow they must be in on the conspiracy tooyuekit
    • https://www.politico…yuekit
    • what trump did was request an absentee ballot. it far different than producing and mailing out a ton of ballots with little oversight.
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    • and i knwo my state jsut passed rules for ballot harvesting. sisolak used emergency powers to go over secretrary of state to declare rules. including allowing
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    • people to turn in multiple ballots. sec state tried to get soem kind of oversight as register any affilation or anything, but overuled.
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    • funny gov and emergency powers.
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    • either party can get in on it and so many ways by state to game and cheat more now. 1) why if fauci said fine to vote normal? 2) isnt this undermining our
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    • entire process and faith in the system. Which isn't a partisan question.
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    • and go register to vote in CA. easy to get a ballot not even living there. Have a person by homeless shelter and create accounts and sent there
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    • at least here we have stricter register controls, but not easy to beat with a little stolen database info which we have had a ton of. so many fake employed
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    • or unemployed, probably guessing through gov databases and dmv. multiple ppl university and private i knwo had to lock down everythign and reset.
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    • but that info they got is all you need to register and get votes and mroe than likely no oversight knowing gov ops
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    • The part you're missing is that every ballot has to be verified and matched to the registration and ID of an actual voter.yuekit
    • ah what u are missing is how that is done. some states are saying u dont even need to match signature. some dont even have signatures too match. some just
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    • allow for the minnesota harvesting being investigated. but you still have yet to give a reason as too why? when gov dude says voting is safe?
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    • and come on, i can register to vote in CA without id, ss, or address. what process of verification?
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    • from another state!
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    • Why would Democrats try to rig the election in California? That pretty much disproves your conspiracy theory right there.yuekit
    • Why would you need to fake results in a state where the Republican party is basically wiped out and where Trump is losing by 30 points?yuekit
    • Ugh deflection again. Why send ballots when totally fine to vote? Why deletimize the process through random states shit processes. Ie minnesota
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    • I'm leaning because they know they don't have it. So burn it down. Push it towards a house or supreme court. And any trump crazy
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    • Unless u have a better reason? Deligitmize cause stupid in hope to game it?
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    • The big ol elephant in the room keeps being neglected
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    • And I don't think it goes unnoticed.. reminds me I read an essay the other day the more educated are likely to be blinded by own bias
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    • Interesting paper which I quite frankly agree with seeing the evidence
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    • Or not blinded but more accepting while more aggressive to others bias. More a dopamine typical trigger. Capt wow thing. Just funny ppl
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    • Ate worse s bit more info to ated in a new religion
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    • Doesn't matter if you are educated or not, just requires a little critical thinking. If someone wanted to rig an election, why would you need this complicatedyuekit
    • scheme of mailing out millions of ballots and hoping they somehow add up to a win for your side? Why not just falsify the results directly, if they have theyuekit
    • power to do it? Would save a bit of time no? Also your original assumption about what Faucci said is wrong. He said it COULD be safe to vote in personyuekit
    • if safety measures are put in place. But that people who are more at risk might still be better off voting by mail.yuekit
    • https://reut.rs/3n1u…yuekit
    • That article talks about how the fake news version of this was shared thousands of times on Facebook, and I guess you were part of that audience.yuekit
    • Gotta be careful man, lots of people trying to trick and manipulate you and of course Trump is #1 at this.yuekit
    • so people at risk and scared could request absentee voting? you still dont explain why. when defined as safe to mail a ton of ballots and deligitimize what we k
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    • and the "could" following rules. SO again WHY?
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    • personally im between ignorance hoping fro fraud and well hope.. or defensive maneuver to deligitmize and force it to house or courts
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    • ambitions of a pelosi? i don't see any objective reasoning towards it all. and hell can jsut be monkey see monkey do with no method to the madness
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    • but i think that needs to be focused on. and as far as critical thinking goes. how does one develop such a sense when told to think a certain way or be censored
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    • come on in the article i mentioned wasnt about critical thinkign skills it was towards how the herds think.
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    • and jsut pointed towards higher education creates more bias which reduces questioning, which i guess necessitates critical thinking for judgement
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    • lol, it's not any more complicated than...there is a virus epidemic, people didn't know how bad it was going to be in November and still don't,yuekit
    • Democrats were trying to make it safer for people. They are doing it in California and other big liberal states where there is no possible reason to steal theyuekit
    • election. Could there be problems with huge number of mail in votes? Of course. But it won't necessarily benefit Democrats, it could just as easily be that tooyuekit
    • many ballots get disqualified and it helps your side.yuekit
    • yea its not complicated "the virus epidemic" has been cured for most things. wear a mask social distance head viral guy says voting in person not an issue
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    • the question is if you believe all this why all the new measures? why not just request absentee based on age?
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    • im asking why the change when no need or desire. Did we hear people say im scared to vote?
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    • i think you are being a little obtuse about the reality of the situation.
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    • OR is politics involved, with a large amount of stupidity?
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    • and a big part is on hopes to capitalize its ignored everything is deligitmized...or the point. i can ttell if stupidity or big plan
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    • i just think its all dumb as fuck based of todays known evidence
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    • I honestly don't know how it will shake out. Only point I'm making is the idea that it's a giant conspiracy to rig the vote is some Alex Jones level idiocy.yuekit
    • When you vote by mail there is a physical record of every vote. Voting in person in most cases you are pressing a button on a machine. In many states there isyuekit
    • no paper trail or independent verification at all.yuekit
    • If you really think the government is so corrupt and evil that they would fake the results of the election, it seems kind of obvious that the second scenarioyuekit
    • would offer them greater opportunity to do that. Mail in ballots can be audited or even challenged in court. And perhaps if Trump loses he will do that andyuekit
    • string you guys along for years, just like he did with the Obama birth certificate thing.yuekit
    • U call me conspiracy. But where is the rational motive to push such efforts? There is a basic narrative and it doesn't jive with reason.
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    • Yes trump can contest courts etc but why. Why would Democrats push for agenda to deligitmize election
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    • When it's absolutely unnecessary. Either ignorance or motive
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    • To be honest looking at most democratic state people I can't tell. More than likely ignorance
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    • In my state I could get access to so many ppls Ss and info. Everyone been hacks and info sold for unemployment
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    • Here the first vote that comes in counts. Hence early voting and submission trump other legit voters
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    • If u vote and got a vote already on u you are cut. But each state has oh so many weaknesses. Typical of most but being pushed this year
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    • To levels of layman not excepting it. That is not good for the nation
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