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    • Can u provide that math?
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    • You'd still be getting your healthcare from a bureaucracy-run group of fucks (think DMV, 'mericans). You'd be a fucking number... not a patient.PonyBoy
    • I just wish they'd find a way to get the prices down.PonyBoy
    • Sad excuses. That's like saying 'why bother eating well and exercising, wearing seat belts, etc., etc. we all die sometime'formed
    • You are a fucking number...a cash cow that continues to pay more to corporate machine. Until that's taken out, you'll be a dumb number paying more and more.formed
    • I disagree... I don't pay into any corpo machine... I actually pick my Doctors based on my research and needs (limited to who's in market cuz of fuck Gov regs)PonyBoy
    • My Doctors listen and work w/me and don't just tell 'maybe you should just... take a pill' (-Obama circa '14)... we work together and I'm willing to pay for it.PonyBoy
    • You let the Gov 100% take over and we are fucked... like going to the DMV or anything else Gov Run (post office etc... all SHIT w/many lazy fucks there...PonyBoy
    • ... for a fucking paycheck/insurance). Those who work in any private biz go out of their way to 'service' you. Gov run shit (in the States) treat you like shitPonyBoy
    • So I'll say it again... please find a way to get the prices down.PonyBoy
    • PB, DB it's just sad the shit you spew. If you only would know how good we have it here with healthcare, and no, never a number.tank02
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      Dude... Have you been to the DMV, your Post Office or any Gov office lately? Try to get a fucking simple permit?      PonyBoy
    • Try to get someone worth a shit from the IRS on the phone—see how well your tax records are kept—get a feel for all the 'fucks they don't give'...PonyBoy
    • ... as it takes literally YEARS sometimes to get them to get you your fucking documents. SHIT SHOW.PonyBoy
    • Look how great we handle our simple absentee ballots—we can't even gather up simple pieces of fucking paper and tally them w/out the bureaucracy fucking it up.PonyBoy
    • PB, should gov't set pricing limits on healthcare? It doesn't matter but I've never had issues at the DMV, PO is a wait sometimes - no big deal.dorf
    • I didn't download the working plan. Think I caught on to the absurdity of the article though. Says Medicare for all will cost 32 trillion. Which pointed out
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    • Max taxes on rich can't even cover. But that plan is less than ten year projection of current costs with some hypothesized numbers.... So we should spend less?
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    • I'm a big supporter of Medicare for all. Currently our Medicare budget is larger than most nation entire social systems. I say keep it at it's high % and expan
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    • D or spread that money to cover 100% not 15% but everyone and than see if coverage is really the issue
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    • Maybe than we can get in to wage caps for doctors 50k seems fair and nationalized controls that offer edu cheap but uwork like military in u are owned and move
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    • But phan would think locking in 17% of current GDP which covers 15% of pop. To increase care when spread to 100% with no limits? If not how much would you raise
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    • The GDP percentage knowing we spend more than anyone?
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    • Always the real questions I never get answers for from ppl who support ideas and think some sort of alchemist can turn iron to gold
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    • dorf... no prob w/the Gov regulating cost... that's what I'm asking for (get the prices down). However, I don't want them running the entire show. Yikes.PonyBoy
    • Ponyboy. Gov runs show now. What are u exactly hoping for?
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    • And as dorf setting price limits. What stops a gov from setting prices below cost? And what does that do to innovation? Or real market supply and demand
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    • A politician doesn't care about a drug cost not related to them. They care about projecting to a majority. There is no incentive or relation anymore for supply
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    • And demand. So now manufacturers produce what isn't good for patients but politics
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    • It's the Achilles heel of the gov controlled healthcare. No gov official looks out for u better than u do
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    • Hmm always crickets when faced with real numbers
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