Digital passport
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- hans_glib6
i'm absolutely against this sort of creeping authoritarianism. it's always presented as being for our own good, but it never is.
what happens when the computer has a glitch and assigns some incorrect info against your profile? the morons on the other end of the terminal always believe what's on the screen and getting them to see different is impossible.
i still remember (and cite) the example of being sent a termination account for electricity, and ringing the electric co to ask what it was all about. "you've been cut off" said the tired voice at the end of the phone. "no i haven't i'm sitting here with the lights and computers on". yes you have, my screen is telling me you have. you need to pay up or we'll come after you in the courts"... etc etc
or the time i was refused life insurance because my medical records had got mixed up with someone else's and the life insurance co saw that i was suffering from alcoholic psychosis, or something equally serious. it took a week of endless calls to various bodies to get that put right, such is the power of the machine and the operator's belief in it.
slowly but surely all the state apparatus is being put in place to facilitate a dictatorship if it ever emerged (please god let it not) in the uk. this shit is insidious and the less we have the better.
if you don't like the shit on the internet then get off it, or at least the larier sides of it. for instance i never look at the "nsfw" thread... i don't want that kind of shit in my head. i don't mind it being there, i just want no part of it.
- Fair point. Brazil is one of my favourite films.monoboy
- But we need a more robust response to this shit. It's out of control.monoboy
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Well said, hans.Nairn - @monoboy - the "robust response" must come from within you. stop believing and/or being offended by shit on t'internet. in other words use your common sense.hans_glib
- It's not an issue for me. I'm more worried about people that turn up to pizzerias with shotguns.monoboy
- It's crossing into politics in way that's become very dangerous.monoboy
- There's probably a leaderboard ranking in the FSB for the most outlandish shit you can get a dumbfuck to do on US soil.monoboy
- <wibble>FakeNooze</wibble>monoboy
- And UK soil for that matter.monoboy
- @hans - but what about troll-farmed content that isn't outright offensive, but is persuadingly just off enough to rock the boat?Nairn
- what about it? if you treat anything in the media, social or old school, as gospel then good luck to you.hans_glib
- Ok, you're a smart guy so you know that difference. What about the 98%?
You know, the sort who voted Brexit for reasons entirely detrimental to them?Nairn - People do though hans. That's the problem.monoboy
- so we (the so-called "enlightened ones") must become the thought police, ensuring that the 98% right-think? fucking listen to yourselves.hans_glib
- eh? the problem we have here is that we have absolutely no precedence for an environment which is so ruthlessly-efficent at disseminating memesNairn
- (like, proper memes, not fucking cats). I'm totally with you about not being authoritarian about others consumption, but... you do see the danger here?Nairn
- i literally don't have the first fucking clue about what a good response to all this is.
But it's clearly something that is moulding our times.Nairn - All this does is add accountability. Making self-modification more likely. And it gives a right to reply for the illegal stuff.monoboy
- It's not about censorship.monoboy