Just skip Deathboy notes

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  • SteveJobs3

    Being intolerant of others who are intolerant of others sounds like hypocrisy to me. Especially when it doesn't seem to be any less anger-driven.

    Maybe try constructive discourse with your opposition. Even if they aren't willing or able - at least you tried and lead by example? If you can't find that common ground, then maybe walk away and don't give them an audience? Let someone else try? It's actually a very rewarding feeling to make that effort and learn about someone and why they feel like they do and say the things they say. Usually I walk away with a little more compassion and empathy, even if my own views remain unchanged.

    You're not going to change the world by exiling those with contrasting opinions or trying to manipulate them into buying into the popular view.

    • This is the problem with online "bubbles". Fb shows only other views similar to yours.
      This just amplifies the polarity of opinions.
      grafician
    • So if we only see similar opinions and everybody agrees with us, you think you're actually right, when instead you might be actually wrong overall.grafician
    • QBN is a public forum...everybody has a voice, even tho' some are absurdly wrong by decent standards.grafician
    • You're right man, online "bubbles"i_was
    • So what do those "Dogear" and "Flag" buttons do? I never clicked on those
      Maybe we just need "Flag" buttons for notes too?
      grafician
    • But yeah, I agree with SteveJobs here, we just need to lead by example anyway.grafician
    • So what you’re saying is ignore him.monospaced
    • Because that’s what Nairn said. He even specified not banning him. Jesusmonospaced
    • I'm no parent, and I want to believe that we're all grown up humans (ic max 1-2 are in their 20 here?).sted
    • bubble buddiesnudes
    • so please, please forgive me if i don't want to share thoughts with somebody who has conclusions what i can't relate to at the present stage of my life.sted
    • maybe deathboy is actually a boy, like way younger than some of us and can't control his emotions enough to get into a discussion like adults? Idk mangrafician
    • mostly because it is the past for me, and it would require patience and a closer relationship to make you understand why.sted
    • @mono I don't have an answer to what to do, I guess it depends on each of us to do what he thinks it's ok, some agree, some punchesgrafician
    • With some people you just can't reason with...move on, what can you do?grafician
    • But this doesn't makes me a better, or smarter, or anything more human than you are.sted
    • monospaced, if someone can't engage and lead someone else in constructive conversation, THEN, perhaps it's time for them to walk away and let someone else try.SteveJobs
    • from what notes I've seen, deathboy is more or less trump, I don't get 90% of what he says and 10% I dismiss entirelygrafician
    • it's a nice sentiment SJ but my gut (and QBN experience) tells me the folks who need to take what you're saying into their hearts will probably deflect it mostPonyBoy
    • ...as the comments are already showing us
      :)
      PonyBoy
    • Yes. I understand. You’re saying to ignore it. Like Nairn said. And not ban it. So eloquently too.monospaced
    • what part of 'take what you're saying into their hearts' coincides with 'ignore it'? you just completely missed my point (and proved SJ's) :(PonyBoy
    • #bubbleboysrenderedred
    • Nobody is asking you to 'ignore' anything, mono—as a matter of fact I think they're asking you to engage w/ a little less hostility. My 'you' is rhetorical btw.PonyBoy
    • A good example of what I'm talking about is precisely the kind of conversation you and I are having now. :PPonyBoy
    • He wrote “walk away and don’t give him an audience.” That’s ignoring in my book.monospaced
    • It’s his whole second paragraph. :)monospaced
    • It’s also the thread topic. To skip him. Skip, ignore. Same thing in this context.monospaced
    • "It's actually a very rewarding feeling to make that effort and learn about someone and why they feel like they do and say the things they say."PonyBoy
    • That's probably the most profane and complete statement of the 2nd paragraph... of which you gleaned 'ignore them' from? huh? :)PonyBoy
    • I agree with Pony Boy.It's a nice sentiment, but it just won't work here. We got this enforced tolerance thing going on, everywhere you look, and IRL too...cherub
    • And in the end, the "tolerant" ones come out looking like the pigs in Animal Farm who changed the rules:cherub
    • "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."cherub
    • Pony I’m not ignoring that. Just saying that in action, it’s about not engaging. To me that is a way of ignoring. I know, semantics, but not a disagreement.monospaced
    • I also choose to disagree that his behavior warrants some level of understanding I haven’t already granted. I also disagree that it should be ignored. just MHOmonospaced

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