America is Fucked
America is Fucked
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- PonyBoy0
how to protest powerfully w/out placing a hand on your neighbor or community...
- this is whats called protest.********
- This looks like a swell day at the park to catch a tan and sip on a smoothie.utopian
- This is what one calls a demonstration, not a protest.utopian
- How convenient and easy to ignore it would be that people would protest without disturbing or affecting you in any way, wouldn't it?sr_rosa
- same thing, 'topes
https://en.wikipedia…PonyBoy - nobody is affecting me person in one way at all, sr_rosa. However the poor in the hoods being destroyed are being fucked over...PonyBoy
- *personallyPonyBoy
- @utopian same thing just with different numbers? :)********
- If you want more destruction, guyz— torch your own homes and cars—take pictures and post w/your phone (your last possession) and show everyone how woke you are!turk_182
- I'm PonyBoy btw... can't seem to login using PB on my phone :/turk_182
- Maybe you can do it, I do not own any home or car.sr_rosa
- Regardless... can’t you empathize w/ those suffering the destruction that destroys their already decaying neighborhood?turk_182
- Of course. Nothing I commented suggests otherwise. Unlike you, I didn't say what people protesting should or shouldn't do. Just remarked that in order to be...sr_rosa
- Which one will politicians take notice of?Chimp
- ...noticeable, a protest has to be inconvenient. Pretending that protests that are not annoying, inconvenient, or disruptive are better shows a lack of empathy.sr_rosa
- I didn't say what people should / shouldn't do, sr_rosa. I pointed out you can protest w/out hurting your neighbor / hood. Sad that seems to upset some of you.turk_182
- sr... to destroy one's neighborhood in anger is just stupid... it doesn't put ME out at all btw... it puts out primarily the poor people in those hoods.turk_182
- Yes, you did. You say people should not hurt others, and in order to do that they should behave like the example you give, judging those who do differently.sr_rosa
- And we can discuss morality of violence against people and things, just don't deflect to create a false debate.sr_rosa
- You know what? I'll accept that & gladly admit to what you're saying as it doesn't involve more death & destruction which is what you seem to be advocating, sr.turk_182
- No, I do not. I reiterate my disposition to discuss it if you want. But if you just keep trying to guess what I think, there is no dialogue.sr_rosa
- I'm 'deflecting' to create what 'false debate'? I'm advocating for a more peaceful approach of which the vid shows ... nothing more.turk_182
- You, however, are arguing that it's somehow an inconvenience for me or that my reason for wanting a diff. approach is that it's 'disturbing or affecting' me...turk_182
- ... when in fact my mind is on those in the neighborhoods being destroyed. You are 'guessing what I'm thinking' too, sr... and you're wrong.turk_182
- First you create a false dicotomy: good protesters vs bad protesters. When contested, suddenly it is about empathising with the poor. Then it is about...sr_rosa
- there is no false dichotomy as there IS good protesting and then there is destructive protest. I know you know this... not sure what you're up to here tho. <3turk_182
- ...not willing to destroy my own possessions. Or being woke. Then it is about me supposedly advocating for death/destruction. All deflections and false debates.sr_rosa
- It's like you're arguing for the sake of arguing... and you've got a cute way of avoiding the fact you got caught indirectly advocating for violence.turk_182
- If you think violence is ever okay toward your neighbor / their property (who hasn't done shit to you) then I can't go much further w/this conversation.turk_182
- My point, again, is that there is no good and bad protests, because you can judge them by many factors, and just because some are more palatable for you,...sr_rosa
- ...they are not better.sr_rosa
- violence toward people who merely live or have a biz isn't 'palatable' for me, sr—again it sounds like you're cool w/violence when it's not necessary.turk_182
- Well, have fun with your false debates, that you seem pretty capable to have all by yourself. I didn't advocate for violence, and stated the opposite repeatedlysr_rosa
- I merely showed a protest can be held w/out violence—zero false debate there. You chimed in and turned something upbuilding into this odd conversation, sr.turk_182
- this is whats called protest.